can this be real? Time expired :O

[Rak_Boy]

DPS really suffer these days
what do you think is a good solution?

[Suki-]

Seen and had longer wait times before x.x

"Solution": queue with a tank/healer

[Radacci]

Seen and had longer wait times before x.x

"Solution": queue with a tank/healer

thats not really a solution, when you need to go as DD, for nexus.
also most ppl suck at tanking/healing, and it would be detrimental to que as those, just to get faster que.
it just doesn't appeal to most ppl anyway.
Healing is really boring, and it makes me fall asleep, or i get really restless and agitated.
Tanking is just annoying, with micro-managing every mob, to keep hate; or boring with just spamming overpower.
They need to add more exciting tank/healer jobs; hopefully DRK will have some interesting mechanics, and ignite some interest in tanking.

i for one cant not wait for the scythe or 2 handed sword swinging mass legendary dps Dark Knight comes to ff 14

In case you missed it, DRK has been confirmed as using 2h Swords, and is a TANK.

[Enkidoh]

I've seen plenty of similar screenshots posted like that, so yes, it's definitely real. Usually when I queue if I can't get a party after an hour as any class I just cancel, as I feel if I'm not going to get a party by then I won't get it at all. And there's no easy fix either - the addition of ROG/NIN hasn't helped the problem, but that issue has been with the game since the start.

DD classes/Jobs are perceived as being easier and more relaxing to play as in a dungeon, as tanks and healers usually get blamed if things go wrong, so a lot of players try to avoid that by simply queuing as a DD. Save opening up dungeons as solo-able with the player's chocobo, I can't really think of any way this can be fixed I'm sorry to say.

[Reokudo]

With all the NIN about, expect that.

[Violyre]

I don't think there really is a change that could be made that wouldn't be unbalanced. They upped the reward for Adventurer in Need last update (not that I've actually looked at what it is now). Unless they added a low chance to get something awesome for it, which is, again, unbalanced, DPS will always outnumber tanks and healers.

My suggestion is to talk to a friend and see if they want to level in dungeons with you. Not that it helps Duty Roulette Low Level, but still. If you want to be a DPS, expect the long waits. It'll come easier once everyone's off the NIN high. I'm leveling my tanks and healers now specifically because I know what DPS queue.

[Fyrebrand]

Usually when I queue if I can't get a party after an hour as any class I just cancel, as I feel if I'm not going to get a party by then I won't get it at all.

I'm about the same. I have an alt character who I'm leveling as Ninja right now, so I have to get dungeons done for story progress. Even so, after 60-75 minutes, I usually withdraw from the queue and play my main, if not just logout in disgust. I can only entertain myself so long grinding Leves and FATEs without even the use of my Chocobo companion. I don't know how new players are expected to get anything done at all.

And there's no easy fix either - the addition of ROG/NIN hasn't helped the problem, but that issue has been with the game since the start.

It's been a problem for the genre, since before FFXIV was even a twinkle in Square Enix's eye. Even in games where basic parties are made of 5 players (1 Tank, 1 Healer, 3 DPS), damage dealers already had a horrible time getting into a dungeon. SE's decision to make "light parties" of 4 that require only 2 damage dealers seems like utter foolishness, to me. Personally, I think they should consider reconfiguring at least pre-50 dungeons so that they require 3 damage dealers. Even that may not be a miracle solution, but it would help a lot.

They upped the reward for Adventurer in Need last update (not that I've actually looked at what it is now). Unless they added a low chance to get something awesome for it, which is, again, unbalanced, DPS will always outnumber tanks and healers.

Yeah, but they are still just offering company seals. Who wants that? I'm nowhere near "hardcore," and even I have hit my max company seals amount and have nothing I want to buy.

I would suggest that the "Adventurer in Need" bonus give some sort of "Mystery Box" with a randomized reward in it. You get it at the end of the dungeon, and when you open it you have a chance of receiving any combination of:
* Gil
* Company Seals
* Tomestones
* Exclusive Minions or Mounts
* Titles
* Materia
* Random Level-Appropriate Gear or Class-Appropriate Food, including exclusive skins

And any commendations received during that dungeon increases your odds at better rewards. Obviously SE can work out the nitty-gritty details themselves, but anything in addition to just GC seals would probably make queuing more enticing for Tanks/Healers.

[Violyre]

Yeah, but they are still just offering company seals. Who wants that? I'm nowhere near "hardcore," and even I have hit my max company seals amount and have nothing I want to buy.

I would suggest that the "Adventurer in Need" bonus give some sort of "Mystery Box" with a randomized reward in it. You get it at the end of the dungeon, and when you open it you have a chance of receiving any combination of:
* Gil
* Company Seals
* Tomestones
* Exclusive Minions or Mounts
* Titles
* Materia
* Random Level-Appropriate Gear or Class-Appropriate Food, including exclusive skins

And any commendations received during that dungeon increases your odds at better rewards. Obviously SE can work out the nitty-gritty details themselves, but anything in addition to just GC seals would probably make queuing more enticing for Tanks/Healers.

I wasn't aware that was the entire increase. LAME.

And you hit what my thoughts were, when I said people would call it unfair. I would love a system like your mystery box, but knowing exactly how the playerbase would respond to that addition (I have an entire thread cataloguing additions/changes when people whine something is unfair because they don't want to do it!), I think we'd not only get people saying it's unfair because they don't want to tank or heal, I also would expect a LOT of bad healers/tanks just spamming roulettes, which potentially could be WORSE than making people wait.

I can even imagine some poor group that actually cares about who they commendate getting screwed because the idiots would refuse to do anything unless guaranteed the commendations (I doubt that would even work, but some people can be forced when they're desperate, which the DPS can and are getting to.). You know how some tanks or healers think they're the only reason stuff gets done? Imagine the morons getting hold of a similar power.

[alimdia]

snip.

No idea what you're trying to say...

[Violyre]

No idea what you're trying to say...

Add incentives for Adventurer in Need, idiots complain unfair for DPS, morons start taking tank/healer spot and being jerks if reward system is built based on commendations.