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    LukeyP666's Avatar
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    Sabbah Sunblade
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    Odin
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    Marauder Lv 60
    At low levels, Flash is your biggest and best threat generating skill until you have Rage of Halone (especially since it was buffed).

    If there's a pack of three or more mobs, I barely even bother with my combo until a couple are dead and stick to Flash and Riot Blade spam. Never have any problems with this, even now when holding threat from Ninjas and overzealous Black Mages/Bards.
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    Nel Synestra
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    Moogle
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Well DPS can also cycle trought mobs like tanks usually do, when i leveled my NIN i started by applying Mutilate on all mobs as that gave plenty of time to tanks build up aggro.
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    Supply Demand
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    Adamantoise
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    Warrior Lv 72
    The ONLY instance wherein a DPS should need to watch their enmity for the tank's sake in a 4-man is if the DPS outclasses the tank's gear by A LOT. So really only at level 50.

    If you are about as geared or even slightly under the DPS and they are taking enmity from you, you either have two outstanding DPS in your group that are purposefully attacking different targets to mess with you, or you are bad.

    I will say that OP might be having issues if the NINs have Aeolian Edge and they don't have RoH yet. And the only dungeon that is applicable in would be toto-rak. Potentially something like a PLD in Brayflox or Cutters if you don't have shield oath yet as well.
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    Floki Dybvaag
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    Excalibur
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    Archer Lv 50
    If the healer is even halfway decent this should be a non-issue in low level dungeons because everyone can take a couple of hits without any problems. If you are using flash 2 times and then rotating your hits on all the trash, you are fine. Like you said, marking helps a bit if people follow them, and in that case you probably don't need to rotate you hits. Up until 40 PLD is tough to always keep agro especially if people are targeting different mobs and/or doing AOE.
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    Veronica Venom
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    Siren
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    Archer Lv 90
    I'm presently leveling a ROG/NIN and I'm having a blast with it. I've put vitality, strength and determination materia on all my gear since about level 25 and I've been yanking aggro from tanks without meaning to. I honestly didn't pay attention to whether or not the tanks were forgetting Shield Oath (I know that happened once, cause the tank mentioned it) or what, but I had this happen in all but maybe one dungeon/hest that I've run. At first, I thought it was because I was attacking a target not the tanks. No, I was on the tank's target. In instances where the tank marked targets, I stayed on that target in numerical sequence. Still pulled aggro. I even pulled aggro when there was only one target in the room.

    You might ask why I put this materia on my stuff. Well, I give the gear what it will take. I tried to meld Dexterity, but it gives zero stat boost. I made sure that I put as much vitality as I could meld so that I wasn't so "squishy". I have received several commendations as a Ninja. I have yet to have a tank say, "Hey, stop stealing my aggro!" I get "Nice job". I'm not trying to tank, I don't pull mobs by running ahead, I drop DOTs on multiple targets, I hit what the tank says to and I maximize damage in my rotations. As was said, what's the problem if I beat down trash and hold the aggro. It's not grabbing the healer and I'm not dying.

    Of course, I see a lot of ninjas, and I do see all the things people complain about, especially those who don't get out of the way of an AOE then get dead. I see them cast an AOE mudra when there's only one enemy or worse, when they don't want to attract the surrounding mobs. I've seen other folks raising ninjas and done the same, but I don't think it's any larger a percentage of other melee DPS. I also see BLM's and BRD's stripping aggro from the tank just about as quickly.
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    Kawaiian Punch
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    [QUOTE=EricCartmenez;2576146]I've put strength materia on all my gear since about level 25[quote]

    Not sure why you would do this.

    You might ask why I put this materia on my stuff. Well, I give the gear what it will take. I tried to meld Dexterity, but it gives zero stat boost.
    This doesn't actually explain why. Strength is as good for a ninja as Piety or Intelligence.
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    Kerwin Nindon
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    Balmung
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    Weaver Lv 90
    Flash spam. Overpower spam and then ask for Goad.
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    Veronica Venom
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    Archer Lv 90
    I make it a point to tell tanks that I can give them TP with goad, because they may not have seen this available yet. Since I can't tell when TP is needed, I set off goad if requested or during a long fight. No one has complained yet.
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    Milleus Vionnet
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    Masamune
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    flash and overpower, problem solved.
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    Stouter Taru
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Before around 30 you don't need a tank for dungeons, nothing hits hard enough to matter. If someone pulls hate, give it a shield bash, and move on to the next mob.
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