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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenji1134 View Post
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    I don't understand how this would help with anything. It'd probably make it worse because the % HQ rate does not increase linearly. Example.

    3 star crafting is typically 4980 quality max, and usually you can only get up to 1500 in quality from HQ materials.
    >This is roughly "32%" of the total quality, but it only translates to 9% rate to HQ the item. As for your iron ore exaple, while you do start with a 433/866 quality, or 50% of it's total quality, this only translates to 15% actual HQ rate. You can see this for yourself with any crafting recipe.
    >You still need to build up 3480 quality from the crafting process to reach 100% quality (100% actual rate)
    >The above requires the stars aligning; 8 stacks of IQ + GS with a good condition, or at least 5 stacks with an excellent. Otherwise, the maximum quality you'd get is around 2300
    Now comparing; (2300+1500)/4980 quaility, or 3800/4980 quaility. Using the power of simulation...

    Reaching 78% of your total quality leads to 69% as your actual HQ rate. This is what I typically get with 7 or 8 stacks of IQ out of the 10 I can possibly fit... on average anyway.

    Now let's take your idea. Instead of starting with 1500/4980, we start with 0/3480..
    >Assuming the same scenario as above, let's add in 2300 quality from crafts alone.
    > 2300/3480 leads to 66% of your total quality, which translates to roughly 23-25% actual HQ rate.

    And just to validate the above screenshot, 2233/4980 is roughly 65% total quality, which translates to 23%

    All this would do is just make HQing harder for people who cannot cap quality (whether it be through stats or RNG, which is definitely the case for most of hte 3* and 4* crafts) or for recipes that have incredibly diluted quality pools due to impossible-to-HQ-materials (which is also the case in many of the recipes), which is especially the big issue of trying to HQ those goddamn master II books that can only have a max of 1100/8900 quality with possible HQ ingredients.
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    Last edited by RiceisNice; 11-16-2014 at 01:26 AM.