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    I concur. This is information that should be both available on the Lodestone site AND in-game by talking to an NPC.

    Example:

    Iofa (Naldiq & Vymelli's): Not all Bloodless have the same weaknesses. Being constructs, Forgekin have the most variety of all the Bloodless. Some Forgekin can be stunned by a bolt of lighting, while others will be energized and attack faster.

    Implementing something like this should be relatively easy for the Development Team, methinks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fernehalwes View Post
    Good evening, Anonymoose!

    Next to voidkin, soulkin probably rates as one of the most difficult taxonomical terms to decipher. For the most part, the regnum (kingdom) and class names used in Eorzea are fairly straightforward:

    Bloodborn
    Seedkin: cactuars, funguars, roselings, etc.
    Vilekin: chigoes, midges, yarzons, etc.
    Wavekin: megalocrabs, orobons, slugs, etc.
    Cloudkin: dodos, chocobos, vultures, etc.
    Beastkin: Wolves, moles, rats, etc.
    Scalekin: basilisks, raptors, drakes, etc.
    Spoken: Ixal, kobolds, sylphs, the 5 races of Eorzea, etc.

    Bloodless
    Ashkin: skeletons, wights, ghosts, etc.
    Soulkin: spriggans, coblyns, doblyns
    Forgekin: juggernauts, mammets

    Transcendents
    Voidsent: ahriman, ogres, imps, etc.

    Soulkin are called such by Eorzean scholars because it is believed that while these creatures once had a will of their own, they now find their souls bound to another object or being, and are essentially being controlled by the invasive secondary force.

    Sorry about the brevity, but I hope that clears things up a bit!

    Now, back to work I go!
    That was a badass explanation, plus now we have a concrete list of which monsters fall into which category, for all those curious/unaware.
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    And people were saying that the Localization Team doesn't give any new game information.

    Shows them, eh.
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    Juggernauts are a ceruleum powered Garlean craft.

    Treant & Gobbues are classified as Seedkin.
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    If they reopened the: Ask the Devs! / A Beginner's Guide to Eorzea this coudl be one of the posts they really need to do more of these: + heres the posts I started:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...uide-to-Eorzea
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    And this is why this kind of thread should remain on the dev tracker. Or on something optional.
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    A quick few things for those who've taken interest in the thread, but first, thanks again for taking the time out, Ferne (Far-off Saint, indeed). We're very appreciative that you two care as much about clear delivery of context as you do the grammar being correct.

    Looking at the alternate language terms for the mobs gives a lot of clues; in fact, soulkin was the only one that didn't outright explain itself when looking. Fun Fact: The German version uses psychological fear terms as eluder names, so "Seedkin Eluder" becomes "Dendrophobia," the fear of plants. Anyway, full list:

    Ashkin - Undead (Something dies, you burn it, it's ash. BUT IT'S BACK!)
    Beastkin - Mammals (Beasts)
    Cloudkin - Avians ("The Winged")
    Forgekin - Machinery (Forged by hand)
    Scalekin - Reptiles (Lizards)
    Seedkin - Plants (Born of Seed; cannot...unimagine...goobbue birth...)
    Soulkin - Cursed (We now know why they're cursed; an invasive secondary force)
    Spoken - Bipedal Sentients (Not ogres; "GRRUGGG" is not sentience.)
    Vilekin - Insects (NOT "pests," specifically insects)
    Voidsent - Not of Eorzea (Great post on this a few threads back, "void vs. Void")
    Wavekin - Aquaans (Obvious, but electrocute it just to be sure.)

    I hope to have all of this covered and reorganized in the Wiki soon, but pretty much every facet of it is undergoing huge changes, so we'll see where it goes. @.@

    Answers to questions above:
    Why isn't this information covered elsewhere?
    From what I've gathered from posts so far, it was originally planned that all sorts of new information would be added to the Lodestone and official FFXIV website shortly after a successful launch (hint: launch was not successful.) and ever since then they've had to redirect their efforts. It may take some time.

    Can another kindred become a Soulkin?
    Another creature can become bound to an object, sure, but I don't think it changes their taxonomy until the entire species conforms to that specific trait. A Spriggan's relationship to the rock it derives power from is much more concrete.

    That said, I'd love to see more information on the Ask the Devs! and official sources, but we do have to understand that the actual game should be ready before the guides to it are created, otherwise it'd be a nightmare going back and changing them.

    Try not to forget that our dear localization ahriman and opo-opo can't just add things to the game or Lodestone, they localize existing information so that players who don't use the origin language version can still enjoy it - and from what I hear, the English version is so stylized and intricate that it's actually chosen over some players' native languages (Now there's a compliment!). Therefore, getting more information into the official sources would need to be asked of more than just Ferne and Eme, but it has to be passed to the highest echelons for universal implementation before they can get to localizing it for us.
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    Last edited by Anonymoose; 08-11-2011 at 01:29 AM.

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    Treant & Gobbues are classified as Seedkin.
    Gobbues are born from seeds >_>;;;;;;;;;;;;?

    cannot...unimagine...goobbue birth...
    Actually if they are I imagine it to be extremely cute XD (or unseeable if they are actually planted in ground D: ). A seed lieing on the ground suddenly cracks open and you see a real baby goobbue...it's not until later that they become scary and maw(sp?) your face off (Like baby lions ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reabs View Post
    Gobbues are born from seeds >_>;;;;;;;;;;;;?



    Actually if they are I imagine it to be extremely cute XD (or unseeable if they are actually planted in ground D: ). A seed lieing on the ground suddenly cracks open and you see a real baby goobbue...it's not until later that they become scary and maw(sp?) your face off (Like baby lions ).
    Well, goobbues are seedkin...they fart spores and then mini mandy-like green cute frogs grow from soil...and then they start getting bigger, fatter and become this ugly thing with floppy rear we know! =P
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    After reading the dev tracker for this post I'm sad to hear that grammar corrections are going to be taken off of the dev tracker. With that being said, I'll probably start coming to this part of the forums more to check in and see if any new juicy lore info has popped up.
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