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    Undefined Term: Soulkin (Contextless Usage)

    It's not that I feel "Soulkin" is improper grammar or incorrect terminology, but I would like to call attention to the fact that the term 'Soulkin,' is meaningless at this time and lacks contextual significance anywhere in the game, as far as I can tell.

    I've searched out clues to no avail; this is all of the information I can find:

    English: Soulkin
    German: Arcane
    French: Arcane
    Japanese: Cursed

    Context clues in the game: Spriggan are referred to as Soulkin twice and a coblyn is on the eluder icon.

    Can we see some more clues in the game, or get a little background here?

    The only thing I can see that coblyns and spriggans have in common is that they seem to derive their power from a silicon/crystalline substance, but that doesn't seem significant as it has nothing to do with souls, arcana, or being cursed.

    Is it just like, an "Other Stuff" category?
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    Last edited by Anonymoose; 08-10-2011 at 11:07 AM. Reason: Phrasing
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    Good evening, Anonymoose!

    Next to voidkin, soulkin probably rates as one of the most difficult taxonomical terms to decipher. For the most part, the regnum (kingdom) and class names used in Eorzea are fairly straightforward:

    Bloodborn
    Seedkin: cactuars, funguars, roselings, etc.
    Vilekin: chigoes, midges, yarzons, etc.
    Wavekin: megalocrabs, orobons, slugs, etc.
    Cloudkin: dodos, chocobos, vultures, etc.
    Beastkin: Wolves, moles, rats, etc.
    Scalekin: basilisks, raptors, drakes, etc.
    Spoken: Ixal, kobolds, sylphs, the 5 races of Eorzea, etc.

    Bloodless
    Ashkin: skeletons, wights, ghosts, etc.
    Soulkin: spriggans, coblyns, doblyns
    Forgekin: juggernauts, mammets

    Transcendents
    Voidsent: ahriman, ogres, imps, etc.

    Soulkin are called such by Eorzean scholars because it is believed that while these creatures once had a will of their own, they now find their souls bound to another object or being, and are essentially being controlled by the invasive secondary force.

    Sorry about the brevity, but I hope that clears things up a bit!

    Now, back to work I go!
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    Did you know that you're my hero? I'm naming my firstborn chocobo after you. Nofool'n.

    Thanks so much for clearing all that up, love the lore-work you all put in - a truly great world in the making. ^^
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    Last edited by Anonymoose; 08-10-2011 at 12:24 PM. Reason: One of my letters escaped, but has been apprehended.
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    Pretty complex this ^^:

    So i'd assume they're like a poltergeist? They were once an unanimated thing (like a skeleton, a doll or a rock) that was possessed by something else that brought it to life? And the 3 variations (ashkin, soulkin and forgekin) being based on what they possessed? If it once was a living creature it become ashkin, if it was man-made object it become forgekin and if it was part of nature it become soulkin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fernehalwes View Post
    Good evening, Anonymoose!

    Next to voidkin, soulkin probably rates as one of the most difficult taxonomical terms to decipher. For the most part, the regnum (kingdom) and class names used in Eorzea are fairly straightforward:

    Bloodborn
    Seedkin: cactuars, funguars, roselings, etc.
    Vilekin: chigoes, midges, yarzons, etc.
    Wavekin: megalocrabs, orobons, slugs, etc.
    Cloudkin: dodos, chocobos, vultures, etc.
    Beastkin: Wolves, moles, rats, etc.
    Scalekin: basilisks, raptors, drakes, etc.
    Spoken: Ixal, kobolds, sylphs, the 5 races of Eorzea, etc.

    Bloodless
    Ashkin: skeletons, wights, ghosts, etc.
    Soulkin: spriggans, coblyns, doblyns
    Forgekin: juggernauts, mammets

    Transcendents
    Voidsent: ahriman, ogres, imps, etc.

    Soulkin are called such by Eorzean scholars because it is believed that while these creatures once had a will of their own, they now find their souls bound to another object or being, and are essentially being controlled by the invasive secondary force.

    Sorry about the brevity, but I hope that clears things up a bit!

    Now, back to work I go!
    Seriously nice info, but.

    Why isnt this kind of thing posted for all to see in a neat tidy format on the loadstone?

    ALL this kind of thing should be posted as a tutorial please.

    I guess Im just confused. IF you guys have this information in house, that you can look up yourself to make this post, then why isnt it posted for the people who play the game?

    Surely it cant be because you guys want us to find out this information and dissolve it ourself in game, because you just told us the info. So there is definitely a lack of this information in game, and would definably improve the game if this was provided on the loadstone for future reference.

    Please and thankyou.
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    Last edited by Grim_Lion; 08-10-2011 at 01:54 PM.

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    what are juggernauts >_> lol
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    Mew!

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    Your answer has actually raised more questions for me Fernehalwes XD. For instance what monster/life form(?) is of type "juggernauts"? Where does a Goobbue fall under (the closest seems to be Beastkin but I'm not sure cause the ones you list are all small and live in packs and I'm not sure if that's true of a Goobbue)?

    Assuming we get that bestiary ever this should all be a part of that . I'm interested to learn more about things like Treants/Goobbue/Ascian too since they only seem to appear in CS's as far as I can see. In-depth lore always gets me hooked into games.
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    <3 Fernehalwes too

    I always wondering what the heck are these skill for. Some are easy; some I couldn't even tell what's that mean.
    maybe you guys should consider add these to the skill description
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    what are juggernauts >_> lol
    Juggernauts ar those garlean giant flying chickens...llike the one you figh-Ahem! no spoilers!

    Anyway...these ones: http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...antasy-xiv.jpg
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    That info should go straight to the loadstone, It's really nice info and helps to add immersion to the game!!
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    <cool FFXIV image here>

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