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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibiki View Post
    Eorzea's only native denizens are The Elementals, Fae and other supernatural entities originally inhabiting it.
    Not quite. After the Lore Book, it's implied that the Allagan Empire drove the Miqo'te away from Eorzea, and that they returned during the Calamity of Ice over the land bridges formed and the Allag we dead and mostly gone.
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    I worry more that the desperation of the Meracydians against the Allagans may be repeated with the Dravanians in the present. Another great wyrm becoming a Wyrmgod....
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    Okay then. that's what I'll do. I'll tell you a story. Can you hear them? All these people who lived in terror of you and your judgement. All these people who's ancestors devoted themselves to you, sacrificed themselves to you. Can you hear them singing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctaruRavenbe View Post
    I worry more that the desperation of the Meracydians against the Allagans may be repeated with the Dravanians in the present. Another great wyrm becoming a Wyrmgod....
    I can think of a prime candidate for it. But at the same time, the Scions are supposed to be watching out for it...

    However, I get the feeling after we meet with Midgardsomr (butchered spelling and all) in 2.5 we may actually help out with his rebirth...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    I can think of a prime candidate for it. But at the same time, the Scions are supposed to be watching out for it...

    However, I get the feeling after we meet with Midgardsomr (butchered spelling and all) in 2.5 we may actually help out with his rebirth...
    I have the same feeling about this. There have been several points in the story now, most significantly when talking with Iceheart, where events have implied the dravanians are not the bad guys here...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    I have the same feeling about this. There have been several points in the story now, most significantly when talking with Iceheart, where events have implied the dravanians are not the bad guys here...

    I'm not sure it could possibly be more obvious that they are going with the corrupt/evil church trope. I mean they have been hammering pretty hard that Ishgard is a bad place for awhile, even early Gridania stuff hints at it with the choco handler who left there.
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    At the same time, there are native races to Eorzea. They're just not the playable ones. The Kobolds and Amalj'aa are endemic to Vylbrand and Paglth'an, their histories tied intrinsically to the lands their cultures and biologies adapted to, and the Sylphs have been present in the Twelveswood for millennia longer than any Elezen or Hyur. You are right about the playable races having migrated, but that doesn't really answer or provide much help on the question of whether the Meracydian dragons predated the Dravanian ones. All we have to go on is the fact that the former is recorded as having been present three thousand years ago, while the first mention of the latter is from two thousand years after that. But we also cannot rule out the possibility that dragons could very well have arisen in Dravania before, or independently to, the Meracydian dragons.
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    Talk to me about the Zermaat Five sometime.

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    Probably old news, but it now makes sense why there many heretic herriers found in Mor Dhona in a cliff overlooking Midgardsomr and also have a stone carving of thalaik, same as loisoix staff
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    Probably old news, but it now makes sense why there many heretic herriers found in Mor Dhona in a cliff overlooking Midgardsomr and also have a stone carving of thalaik, same as loisoix staff
    louisoix put that there. he placed all of the marker stones of the 12 around eorzea prior to the battle of canteau and bade as many people as he could to pray at them. they were his tool for channeling the prayers of the people into a useable form.
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    Well we know the Allags enslaved dragons, then followed the destruction of the Allag empire. Could the Dravanians in Eorzea be descended from enslaved dragons that got free during the Allag empires fall?

    And what if Midgardsormr does return, not reborn as a living entity, but as a summon done in the same or similar way that the Moogles summoned King Mog?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    And what if Midgardsormr does return, not reborn as a living entity, but as a summon done in the same or similar way that the Moogles summoned King Mog?
    It'd be wild if, like with Shiva, his corpse actually gets possessed by the Primal and frees itself from the airship he's wrapped around now.
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