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    Sch Seeking Advice for t9

    So my group been working on t9 for the last 2/3 weeks and we seem to be struggling quite a bit. Our dps is a lil on the low side, getting 6 meteors normally. But that's the dps issue, mine is dealing with the ravensbeak and it dots. I remember when the first and 2nd ravensbeak will be coming out but not any after. Also, I normally have to do a countdown I my head for when the dot will explode but id sometime lose track due to dealing with the other mechanics and micro managing Eos. Lots of time, I would cast Aldo as soon as I see ravensbeak start, but normally, the cast will go off too late. I tried virus once the cast start but it doesn't seem to have an effect. The thing that kills our tank the most in p1 is the ravensbeak dot. Does sacred soil work for the dot? Also, any additional advice is appreciated.
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    Tank should be popping cooldowns to help mitigate the damage, along with your Adlos. Even if you're late on the Adlo for Ravensbeak, the cooldown popped should keep the tank alive, however, try to predict when Ravensbeak is gonna come, that way you get Adlo off beforehand. And then just pop an Adlo before the dot goes off. You shouldn't have to hit all your Adlos for the tank to survive tho. Either he's undergeared for the fight, or he's not popping cooldowns
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    Sadako Yamamura
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    Judging from the post, your group is solo tanking. In this case, healing has to come from both healers, not just you. Ideally you want a White Mage's Stoneskin up and an Adloquium from you for the beak and before the blight goes off. However, the tank can survive just fine with just adloquium - Assuming the tank is properly geared for the solo tank strat.

    However, expecting a stoneskin from the white mage is in vain in a lot of cases. If we were to assume the tank will have to do with just your adloquium's: Make sure Adloquium is up 2-3s before the Blight goes off and cast another Adloquium right after. The second adloquium will generate a shield that has effect right after the explosion and, if timed well enough, will heal up the tank a bit as well. To be entirely sure you can toss out a lustrate the moment the timer hits 0, utilizing the healing effect delay.

    Edit:
    For references:
    Raven's Claw -> Raven's Claw -> Stardust (red) -> Raven's Beak
    Raven's Descent -> Iron Chariot -> Thermionic Beam -> Raven's Descent (on tank) -> Stardust (yellow) -> Lunar Dynamo -> Meteor Stream (the dipping thing) -> Dalamud Dive
    Raven's Beak -> Stardust (red) -> Meteor Stream (double) -> Dalamud Dive
    Raven's Beak -> Stardust (yellow) -> Raven's Descent -> Iron Chariot -> Thermionic Beam -> Raven's Descent (on tank)

    I don't completely remember what's next, I rarely get past this part any more
    Stardust (red) -> Raven's Beak -> Lunar Dynamo -> Meteor Stream -> Dalamud Dive*

    * The tank must use some big CDs here. As Dalamud Dive lands, Raven's Blight will go off as well and a Raven's claw will follow right after. This combination will most likely destroy your tank (unless there was a tank swap)
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    Easiest way to deal with Raven's beak/blight is to make sure there is a aldo and/or stoneskin on the tank. Even with those up, Raven's Beak may hit quite hard, your tank should be using CD's and you should be saving your lustrates for the tank till you get the timing and rotations down.

    GL :3
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    You guys know if sacred soil will work for the raven's beak dot ( raven's blight )?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beyondgrave View Post
    You guys know if sacred soil will work for the raven's beak dot ( raven's blight )?
    No idea, I never tried. But I figures it does. I never use soil in T9 (except for mega flare): Waste of stacks imo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beyondgrave View Post
    You guys know if sacred soil will work for the raven's beak dot ( raven's blight )?
    I mostly DPS on SCH in a two-tank (one tank full DPS, no swaps) setup. I pop soil in the middle of ravensbeak castbar. Let's it last for beak, the melee swipes following it, and the blight afterwards. It lets the WHM keep the tank up through all of it solo with Selene while I go back to more DPS.

    Having a competent WHM for T9 is a godsend for DPSing on SCH.
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    1st and 3rd beak should be mitigated with Adlo + virus from the sch. Im assuming your tank is pally, if that the case he needs to stoneskin himself. If his CNJ isnt 34 tell them to stop being a scrub and go get SS. As sch if u see that blight will explode and your tank isnt topped off, dont be afraid to lustrate them BEFORE blight explodes. Ideally blight explosion should be taken at full hp w/defensive cooldown from tank. The blight explosions should also have a sch Adlo and pally self stoneskin.

    The second beak u can toss out E4E as Nael lands from Lunar Dynamo- Meteor stream combo. U have about 2 GCDs to prep your tank up. You can drop a sacred soil here. If timed correctly soil will mitigate both ravensbeak and the blight explosion. Soil + E4E mitigation + plus your adlo should be more than enough.

    My groups dps is high so we only see 3 beaks; 4 meteors.

    You mentioned lack of dps. You can help them out by having selene out and DoT'ing Nael whenever u feel safe. Seems like your group is just starting progression on this fight. Ideally WHM should be solo healing most of the first phase with sch only leaving cleric stance to prep for beaks. But that will come as you become more familiar with fight. If you feel safer using Eos like i did during progression. U can still use her, but i recommend not bring her out till golem phase since there is no heavy AoE damage on first phase. That way u can have her around to mitigate megaflare with fey covenant but still help the dps with selene.
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    WHM needs to have SS up for blight. My group users a WAR tank and he cannot always have a CD up. Also ignore topping everyone off after raid wide damage in favor of keeping the tank topped off. There's plenty of time after to heal the raid or even let your fairy single target do it for you once the tank's health is stabilized.
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    The third Raven's Beak comes about three-four GCDs after Nael lands on the double Meteor Stream, so use that as your reference point. Additionally, the third Raven's Beak is also the deadliest of the bunch, as it is preceded with a Dalmund Dive and two Raven Claws for some pretty spiky damage. My MT in our group tends to use a heavy CD at this point to help mitigate this spike.

    Once you can start predicting Raven's Beaks, you can pretty much stay in DPS mode for the remainder of P1. What I like to do is the following:

    -Aldo just before Raven's Beak
    -Begin to cast Physick as Raven's Beak is about to be cast (I have Nael focus targeted and usually begin this cast at the moment the cast bar passes the capital R of the ability)
    -Cleric's Stance - Casted DoT + instant DoT (based on what DoTs are on / about to fall off / not on), remove Cleric's Stance
    -Adlo (Tank should have about 3-4 seconds worth of the debuff left at this point)
    -Physick (this should clip the MT as soon as the explosion goes off)

    The third beak will as prove to be the most problematic of the bunch because the debuff tends to explode just after Nael uses Ravensclaw, putting a sizable chunk into the mitigation provided by the healers if casted too early.

    To help, I tend to E4E the tank after the double Meteor Stream. I also Virus Nael at that point due to how spike-tastic that part is. If you Virus the very first Raven's Beak, you'll have Virus back up by the third Beak.
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