Garuda 1.0

**Roris** · 11-10-2014 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

Even on PC, most people couldn't run the game because the graphical (and maybe CPU) demands were too high for the mainstream PC gamer, which would have shut out a ton of people wanting to play the game. I don't expect the graphics to ever get back to the old levels unless there's massive work and optimization going on.

That's fine and dandy with the crappy Crystal Tools engine that can't even reach 60fps smoothly on modern PCs without mods and on some PCs without some workarounds as proved by the XIII PC port, but the new engine was designed specifically to be more flexible, light and optimized by none other than the Luminous Engine CTO, so no excuse there either.

**Ashkendor** · 11-10-2014 09:23 AM

Dat slow gameplay doe. I don't think I could've played this. ._.

**Almalexia** · 11-10-2014 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by Ashkendor

Dat slow gameplay doe. I don't think I could've played this. ._.

Is this why turn-based RPGs died? Because "dat slow gameplay doe"?

**Alukah** · 11-10-2014 09:55 AM

I've tried to watch that video at least three times now and I can't get to the end, that slow combat makes me want to sleep.

**kyuven** · 11-10-2014 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by Almalexia

Is this why turn-based RPGs died? Because "dat slow gameplay doe"?

there's a difference between turn based combat and slow as hell "real time" combat.

**Duelle** · 11-10-2014 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by Almalexia

Is this why turn-based RPGs died? Because "dat slow gameplay doe"?

Turn-based RPGs "died" (more like stagnated rather than die) because it is a relatively limiting design. In a world where people want the new shiny stuff and call it innovation and control is everything, turn-based RPGs didn't evolve much to claim innovation nor give enough control.

If you look at it over the years, the only real innovations were active inputs mid-battle (AKA that thing with the button pushes from Super Mario RPG) and button combinations (AKA that thing from Xenogears). Everything else has for the most part been gimmicks within the limits set by how turn-based RPGs work. This includes how materia worked in FFVII, GFs in FFVIII, the scrolling life meters from the Mother series, multi-hit attacks from the FF remakes, and so on.

Originally Posted by kyuven

there's a difference between turn based combat and slow as hell "real time" combat.

This, too.

**Zumi** · 11-10-2014 10:35 AM

The whole bad thing about 1.0 garuda was only set up people would be willing to take was 1 whm 5 blm 1 bard ( to ballad the blms) 1 tank. Everyone else was pretty much excluded from the fight if you didn't level those jobs. In those days you had to shout in uldah to make parties for stuff, all you would see is shouts for blms mostly with must have double or triple meld gear cause blms with melded gear where hard to find, the whm, tank, and bard didn't need melded gear.

**Almalexia** · 11-10-2014 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by kyuven

there's a difference between turn based combat and slow as hell "real time" combat.

Sure. I like ATB too.

**Tupsi** · 11-10-2014 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by Jynx

Yeah 2.0 is totally free of things like this like the old Titan medica trick, or enrage Turn 2.

This kind of stuff only ever happened in 1.0!

It is kind of funny how people attack 1.x about things even more present in ARR.

**Alukah** · 11-10-2014 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by Tupsi

It is kind of funny how people attack 1.x about things even more present in ARR.

It's funny how I have never seen you say anything good about ARR, yet you keep playing it...

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