Lucrezia Turn 13 Clear

[Garlyle]

People ARE saying DRG is so bad people cant clear raids with it and that anyone playing DRG should switch to NIN or MNK.

I've also seen people say "Nobody brings Scholars to raids"

just 'cause people are saying it doesn't mean it's actually even remotely true.

That said oh boy oh boy I've been waiting for this 8D

[dragonflie]

What I'd like to see now is Lucrezia or Collision or anybody to complete T13 with a DRG. Or someone to point out how it is impossible with a DRG instead of a MNK. The argument on this forum that DRG is now useless could effectively be put to bed if someone clears T13 with one.

Seeing as you have never even cleared T9, or even touched ScoB, you are basing your entire argument on other peoples opinion.
They might not offer utility, but if they know their jobs perfectly then they can pull their weight just fine.
Those saying that DRG are too terrible are usually people who have never cleared with a GOOD DRG.

[Makado]

I have no problem with parsers but for example, Collision and DnT both used a program that calls out every ability the boss does, now that is cheap.

Yeah it would be nice if everyone would actually play and have to pay attention to the mechanics instead of tunnel vision DPS and move when the program says "go".

[Grotesque]

Well yeah, using parser for the numbers is ok IMO, using programs to tell out every mechanic, very cheap. So my claim is, they aren't good enough to clear it without voice in their head to tell them. Kudos to the parties clearing it without the little man in the ear who never fails to call out.

The argument 'it's in the battle log you can read it there also' is cheap, too.

Normally, SE should follow their ToS and ban them for using non-parser programs. However, Shitstorm would be big and fanbois would be crying all over the world.

[Yumi_umi]

Snip.

Haha lol looks like my silly hp (6.6k hp atm) for a whm will come in handy after all XD but by the time i get to t13 it\\'ll be kinda irrelevent i guess as everyone\\'s average hp will go up due to capped tome gear/ fcob gear and mechanics will be more understandable.

But yahhh lol the kill vid of collision\\'s t13 was pretty good as the mvp was a mnk who raced against the enrage.
Total clutch omg #1 dps in da server moment there imo XD
Ppl must have been yelling on their voice chat like
Wooowowowowowo gogogogogogogogo killllll itttt, hair tearing moment with sweaty hands and cold feet XD
Its good to see tho there is an hp check ^^
I would love to know what their healer\\'s gear setup was.

[Grotesque]

Check their lodestones... i90 crafted acc with vit4 mat.

[Garlyle]

Check their lodestones... i90 crafted acc with vit4 mat.

Not really a surprise. Those were BiS during 2.3 for tanks, to my understanding, and it's not like they've all had time to gather Ironworks/Dreadwyrm rings to replace them.

is it just me or does the fight LOOK mechanically simple? I'm sure as hell it probably is not and I'm nobody to say it looks easy. But the mechanics just do not look as tough or t9 for some reason. Although it's clear the abilities hit super hard and the divebombs look tough to dodge, plus tons of hp

My understanding of Turn 10+ is that it is, generally, mechanically more simple (not like five separate fights in a row like Turn 9 was). But it is, to my understanding, also hypertuned - Lucrezia barely beat enrage timers, and these are players who are probably among the top 0.1% in performance in their roles in the game. Also, even though the mechanics are simpler, they're oftentimes even more punishing when you screw them up. So it's more about mastering your job than mastering the hoops you're jumping through this time - whichi s probably why it all looks so fun to me.

[Ooshima]

Interesting post, But now that it's on the official forms and you can clearly see 3rd party apps being used could he not be banned because you know it is the official forms are reviewed by SE staff.

Yes! Ban all these top groups who use parsers so that I can be the top when all of them are banned!

[Ooshima]

What I'd like to see now is Lucrezia or Collision or anybody to complete T13 with a DRG. Or someone to point out how it is impossible with a DRG instead of a MNK. The argument on this forum that DRG is now useless could effectively be put to bed if someone clears T13 with one.

It is not impossible. But just that considering Lucrezia cleared all turns on the first week, and technically CL did it on the 2nd week, you have to consider that the FCoB is created with the fact that 99.9% of the groups out there should not be able to down in at this speed with current HA/Soldiery gears. There are tougher DPS checks than SCoB and also HP checks, which these people used crafted gear to overcome. And no matter how you look at it, the easiest way out to push the total raid DPS out is to have 2 MNKs, which has been popular since SCoB Savage days.

Not saying that any other combination will not work, but groups like Lucrezia/Collision are racing against time for world first.

[Sapphic]

but all in all i think they find parsers a unfair advantage for PC players, and until they implement it for all 3 versions, then it is a no-no.

As FFXIV does not support add-ons, software wise. They aren't supporting them at the moment because if anything goes wrong with using a 3rd party app they won't be held accountable. eg account compromise after using an app, If they add a system that allows players to write mods/apps for FFXIV then they can regulate what is being used and limit anything bad happening. Whereas atm, you run the risk of 3rd party apps you use doing bad things.

To put it another way, if SE said apps where ok to use then they accept a level of responsibility for any negatives that may arise from using them, something they are not willing to do due to the fact they cannot regulate it. When or if an official way is added, then it all changes,