Missed ONE >>1<< Duty Finder commence, and now I have 30 minutes penalty.

[Rysir]

Actually if it isn't joint strikes then there a loop hole which can be used to get around the penalty.

If there is a loophole then it clearly is badly implemented, the game can tell when someone in the party does not qualify for a duty but cant tell when someone has a waiting penalty? That is very much a billboard saying "Badly made function"

[Fellisin]

If there is a loophole then it clearly is badly implemented, the game can tell when someone does not qualify for a duty but cant tell when someone has a waiting penalty? That is very much a billboard saying "Badly made function"

Well no, there is no loophole at present. But people who say there shouldn't be a joint strike system will introduce one. Making the system completely pointless.

[pootersmash]

but it stops a loophole in the lockout system which would be a bigger problem. OP obviously didn't think it through before posting.
Better luck next time.

Which loophole are you referring to? as far as a group of players swapping who withdraws, what is the point? the only reason people abused withdraw was to hit a duty in progress, and a party of any size is never put into those. Any group trying to do that is simply wasting their time, and strikes. No player should ever be penalized for another players actions, even if you chose to be associated with them. Furthermore, Ready check only makes sure that someone is there the moment you flag for the DF, people occasionally need to afk in the 5-15 minutes it takes for some duties to actually pop up, let alone those that simply get caught in a 5 minute zone load.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

That's an insult to rocks

[Roris]

So let's say 8 players in a queue troll party start withdrawing or not clicking commence. If the system didn't penalize the entire party that would be 24 strikes total, 3 per party member, instead the way it works now those withdrawals are reduced to 3 right? Except there's also nothing stopping those people from simply queuing by themselves and making those 24 withdrawals happen anyway.

So really there's no reason to penalize legitimate parties for what shady people might or might not do because they'll find a way around it either way. You say the way it works now is to prevent a loophole, but the even bigger and more blatant loophole is simply to organize in FC or an LS and solo queue if someone really wanted to troll the queue.

If anything the way it currently works now exactly promotes troll parties or at least allow them to be able to exist, just like T5 skipping trolls back in the day. What's there to stop people from making PFs to intentionally lock out people for 30 min? Aside from reports for abuse and blacklisting there's nothing else really, and sure 30 min might not be as bad as getting skipped to T5, but the flawed system still allows it.

[Black91CRX]

It's for the greater good lol

[t-a-l-a-n-m-e-r-c-e-r]

As far as i know a locked out person cannot queue in a party. They will be ineligible. So Fellisin, your argument about trolling is flawed.

[maxthunder1]

So it seems players would rather control how others wish to play by crying about other players not hitting commence or timing out, so they cry to the dev's. Now i understand it is annoying but really you play your way left them play their way because look at what has happened and players are not happy with how it works. As I have said before there is no way to stop players from trolling regardless of the penalties because in the end those players will find another way to troll regardless. The only thing that this has done is penalize players who dont abuse the duty finder, yes maybe they had slowed down the trolling but it has created a new issue, from accepting than going afk to get vote kicked to trolls locking out other players so what has actually been accomplished, other than make things worse?

Im sorry but the community in 1.0 was 10 times better than the community in 2.0 maybe they need to get rid of the duty finder and all these issue will stop as well as the community getting better because now that you would have to play with players on your own server your reputation would be a major concern to them. We have party finder and that is enough we dont need cross server play as this promotes bad behavior due to not being on the same server.