Missed ONE >>1<< Duty Finder commence, and now I have 30 minutes penalty.

[Kiara1]

meaning you had already done 2 withdraws.

yeah but who says it couldn't happen 3 times in a day. it takes about a minute or so for me to teleport to a new location, and maybe more to teleport to mor dhona, and if I were really unlucky DF could pop 3 times in a day when i was in a loading screen.

Im just saying its unfair but I still think we need something like it to prevent the in progress seekers

[Lithera]

Maybe they could make it 5 strikes and reset it every 12 hours instead of every 24. Other than that it's working fine. They can't code in exceptions for things like teleporting or being in a CS or in a Leve etc. because those are avenues that people could use to exploit the system. Want to In Prog fish? Just teleport or pop one of the repeatable quest dialogs and cancel the queue/time it out until you get the In Prog. Trust me if they had made exceptions for this people would be complaining even more because they would STILL be getting locked out because they went to the bathroom and the withdraw spam would still be happening.

[pootersmash]

The problem isn't how many strikes it takes to get to the penalty, it is the fact that somebody elses error, penalizes the entire group. I had a similar event where I was helping someone catch up by doing Battle on the Big Bridge. One of the members was in a long series of CS's dialog and couldn't get through in time. Because of that, I was penalized and had to sit out for 30mins. At the time, i was the tank, so the rest of the group just sat in DF for 30mins, then re-invited me and it instant flagged.

I loved the idea of people that withdrew getting a penalty when I heard about it, but only the player withdrawing should receive that penalty. On top of that, as far as I know, a preformed group of any amount will never be put into a group in progress, so they can't use the multiple players to abuse the system if it was that way.

TLR Don't penalize the entire party because one player makes a mistake.

[Drako]

Maybe they should link ready check into duty finder. So when you attempt to queue, it wont let you until everyone has clicked in. Would be a smart integration of two systems. And it would eliminate a lot of the tears.

[Roris]

It should only penalize the people that didn't click Commence and/or clicked Withdraw, just those exact people. It shouldn't affect anyone else in any other case, especially the people who did click Commence, that's simply all there is to it. It's a bad implementation in that regard that needs to be fixed, otherwise the penalty is perfectly fine and I do get some satisfaction while solo queueing every time someone withdraws, knowing they'll get penalized for it.

[Barboron]

but it's obvious that this wasn't well thought out and implemented in a sloppy way.

It actually was well thought out and wasn't sloppy at all. Just think about it for a moment...
You have someone in your party who continually withdraws, do you still want them in your party? Or are you going to go ahead and progress on without them?
It's not just that, but it stops a loophole in the lockout system which would be a bigger problem. OP obviously didn't think it through before posting.
Better luck next time.

[Rysir]

It actually was well thought out and wasn't sloppy at all. Just think about it for a moment...
You have someone in your party who continually withdraws, do you still want them in your party? Or are you going to go ahead and progress on without them?
It's not just that, but it stops a loophole in the lockout system which would be a bigger problem. OP obviously didn't think it through before posting.
Better luck next time.

You need to learn how to read buddy boy. People who silently go afk and jabbing a strike on the whole party is not even close to being on him and it is a very poor installation. Clearly you didn't think it through before posting.

[Kaze3434]

You need to learn how to read buddy boy. People who silently go afk and jabbing a strike on the whole party is not even close to being on him and it is a very poor installation. Clearly you didn't think it through before posting.

and the game has the tools to see if someone is ready or not. use them.

[Rysir]

and the game has the tools to see if someone is ready or not. use them.

Or maybe a function of the game could you know not bite you in the ass when something out of your hands happens. Say we have a ready check, and then it passes with everyone ready but then someone has a sudden power failure or realizes they forgot something irl and a withdraw is set. Congratulations the ready check changed nothing and the whole party has a strike. And whats more is that a ready check will not stop trolling players from setting a strike on everyone and there is just flat out no reason to hurt the whole party due to one idiot or one accident as that creates distrust and frustration between players. Punishing the innocent does not have a nice ring to it.

[Fellisin]

You need to learn how to read buddy boy. People who silently go afk and jabbing a strike on the whole party is not even close to being on him and it is a very poor installation. Clearly you didn't think it through before posting.

Actually if it isn't joint strikes then there a loop hole which can be used to get around the penalty.

If it not joint then a party would have potentially more than two free withdraws before lock out. So if you have two people in a party. One person could get two strikes & then the other could take another two strikes. Meaning that party could potentially withdraw a total of four times before a penalty is issued to either person. So making the feature to stop the massive amounts of withdrawals not very effective at all.

I would say someone didn't think it through and it certainly wasn't Barboron.