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    Yogarogue's Avatar
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    Arjuna Pandava
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    Lancer Lv 50

    Hide + Sneak attack is a very clunky dynamic...

    I am a relatively lower level rogue so my judgement may be off here but I have been noticing that when attempting to use a Hide + Sneak attack in between encounters, it is a very clunky mechanic.

    The reason why is because when using hide, sneak attack does not become immediately available, it actually takes a bit to register that we are hidden. Because of this, sneak attack is not available for a small amount of time after using the hide ability. It becomes very clunky and almost not worth the effort.

    Looking for some feedback on this to see if any other rogues are feeling the same way.

    I have not yet unlocked trick attack so im not going to quickly assume that the same issue would come up for it..
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    Seravi Edalborez
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    At 45 you'll get Suiton which lets you use SA/TA without bothering with Hide.
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    Michael Stormcloud
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I usually hide well before the pull when I know I want to use Sneak/Trick attack. The only downside is that if the tank pulls the mob far from your current location, you have to creep over there lol.

    One thing I noticed on accident: When you use Shikuchi it LOOKS like you can immediately cast Hide with delay. Going to experiment with this when I get home to see if you can Shikuchi to position after the pull and immediately Hide without being seen. I would feel sooooo much like a ninja if this works. Has anyone already tried it?
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    Roegadyn Masterrace
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    Suiton >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    At 45 you'll get Suiton which lets you use SA/TA without bothering with Hide.
    What is Suiton? is it a passive ability you get?
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    Seravi Edalborez
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yogarogue View Post
    What is Suiton? is it a passive ability you get?
    A 3-step jutsu that will let you use TA or SA as if you had Hide activated, within like 5-10 seconds of activating Suiton.
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    Michael Stormcloud
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyrmurlFloerasksyn View Post
    Suiton >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hide.
    This won't work due to the fact that Suiton is actually an attack that hits an enemy, making Hide unavailable.
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    Aria Placida
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaolinMike View Post
    This won't work due to the fact that Suiton is actually an attack that hits an enemy, making Hide unavailable.
    Those aren't meant to be an arrow, they're "greater than" signs. >_>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Those aren't meant to be an arrow, they're "greater than" signs. >_>
    ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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    Jaykos Molkot
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    I agree its clunky.

    Hide should be on a 3 sec cooldown like white mages cleric stance with the option of bringing up a new action bar for abilities to use from stealth. Trick attack and sneak attack should also be on a short 3 sec or so cooldown. Basically wows rogue which works flawlessly and feels great.
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