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    Quote Originally Posted by Elim View Post
    Then they can join a low pop. server instead of joining a high pop. one and adding to the wait times. If they don't want to join another server then it's their choice to wait.
    I can see it now "Hey Bro, I know we are besties and all but this guy on the forum said you shouldn't be allowed to play with me because you're late to the game or something. Deal with playing alone."

    Yeah, that will go over well. Come on Elim. Be realistic. Games like these grow because you play with friends or because you make friends and therefore you stick around and keep playing. Deliberately preventing people from playing with their friends would be one of the single worst road blocks for getting new players view word of mouth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    had to shorten this due to character limit
    They can both join another server. Either through character transfer or making a new character. I'm being realistic. Part of the reason SE locks the servers is to encourage people to join the low pop ones instead of joining a high pop one and creating more stress on it. Plus auto kick doesn't mean servers wont be locked. The more that join the more chance it'll be locked. The auto kickout was mostly for people who already created a character on the server and were having issues logging in.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fyrebrand View Post

    Baloney. (Had to shorten this too.)
    You can turn the sound on to hear queue or FATE pops. Also there is the ff14 alarm clock website for nodes. You can also simply come back every hour to take care of your plants. :P So of course I can. Anyone can. Also I don't remember the exact amount of time you were giving before being auto kicked out. I think it was pretty short though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyrebrand View Post
    "Periods of high congestion" can mean many things.

    True, but you won't have congestion without players logged in. In order for things to be congested you must by it's very nature have people logged into the server. Meaning that while it may not be the only criteria it is part of the criteria. People saying server pop doesn't affect the lockout are incorrect. The simple fact that people have far better success making new characters very early in the morning is a testament to the fact it must be part of the criteria. Otherwise it wouldn't work with such consistency.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elim View Post
    They can both join another server.
    If I've been playing for a year and I want them to join me then the answer you give is wholly inadequate. Enjoy telling your friends they can't play with you when the time comes. Just heartless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post

    If I've been playing for a year and I want them to join me then the answer you give is wholly inadequate. Enjoy telling your friends they can't play with you when the time comes. Just heartless.

    I've been playing for about the same amount of time. Some of friends have joined my server. They choose to patiently wait for it to open. It didn't hurt them. Also I'm not sure how asking a friend to play on another server on a video game is heartless. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elim View Post
    I've been playing for about the same amount of time. Some of friends have joined my server. They choose to patiently wait for it to open. It didn't hurt them. Also I'm not sure how asking a friend to play on another server on a video game is heartless. LOL
    Perhaps that was a bit hyperbolic so you're right. Seriously though I tried to get a friend of mine on Balmung for over a week. Near the end I was pleading with him to keep trying because he was getting frustrated. He had zero interest in playing on other servers since he specifically wanted to play with me. Thankfully he got in, ended up buying the game, and already paid for one month. Square almost lost that sale though. Don't underestimate people's desire to play with their friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elim View Post
    You can turn the sound on to hear queue or FATE pops.
    Couldn't SE just give us a warning box when we are getting close to auto-logout, with a sound effect? Heck, give it a steady "ticking-clock" sound like when a DF queue window is counting down. If you can't respond to this, you can't respond to a FATE. And even if you do get logged out, if you can't get back to your computer in time to log back in before the FATE is over, then you were never going to get do the FATE anyhow.

    Also there is the ff14 alarm clock website for nodes. You can also simply come back every hour to take care of your plants.
    Do those plants/gethering nodes disappear if you get logged out? It sounds like your website will tell you when the nodes are up, whether you're logged into the game or not. When you hear the tone, go log back in and get them.

    I don't remember the exact amount of time you were giving before being auto kicked out. I think it was pretty short though.
    I don't make up the amount of time for an AFK auto-logout. SE makes up the timer, and they can set it at whatever they want. I think the lowest they would actually set it would probably be an hour, but it could just as easily be 1.5 hours, 2 hours, etc. Heck, even if they made it 2.5 or 3 hours, it would still have a positive effect on the servers. There are people who stay logged-in 24/7 -- or log in the mornings, go to work/school, and don't come back til evening. That is ridiculous, and the game does not need to cater to that sort of habit simply because they find it "inconvenient" to have to log back in.

    But for my examples, I was assuming a low estimate of 1 hour. If you're too preoccupied to simply tab into the game and tap a key at least once per hour, then you're not going to be able to gather a node or complete a FATE when it happens, either. With the long list of activities you say you're taking care of all day, I doubt there's even that many instances where you'd even get logged off at all. Heck, your last few posts in this thread don't even have an hour's space between them.
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    Last edited by Fyrebrand; 11-11-2014 at 05:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyrebrand View Post

    Do those plants/gethering nodes disappear if you get logged out? It sounds like your website will tell you when the nodes are up, whether you're logged into the game or not. When you hear the tone, go log back in and get them.
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    If you get kicked out there's no guarantee you'll be able to log back in time due to a wait. Like I said I'm not exactly sure what the boot time was, but it was short. Something like 30 minutes. Knowing SE's tendency to put their foot down hard on things it'll be about that amount of time again.

    I don't see whats so terrible about having a tad bit of patience to wait for a server to open up, rather than demand people to change their play styles completely. I waited three days to make my character when ARR came out. As for staying logged in 24/7, I doubt the majority of the player base does that. Some legit people do, then it's probably mostly RMTs. I'm sure RMTs would support making character creation even easier. They'll probably be your biggest supporter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elim View Post
    I don't see whats so terrible about having a tad bit of patience to wait for a server to open up, rather than demand people to change their play styles completely.
    How is not playing the game a playstyle?

    If you're not actively playing SE's game, what reason does SE have to let you keep hogging their server space?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intaki View Post
    How is not playing the game a playstyle?

    As I explained in my other posts(and other people have said) they liked to stay logged in for various reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elim View Post
    As I explained in my other posts(and other people have said) they liked to stay logged in for various reasons.
    That doesn't make it a playstyle, that just means those people are impatient and self-centered.
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