ST till my eyes bleed

[Tex_Mex]

So new patch, new gear, new class, everything is awesome right!!??

Well, SE may have overlooked one small thing. With the massive nerfs to hunt rewards, there are only 2 ways left in order to get your characters gear lvl up to 110:

1) Second Coil
2) ST

Everyone knows how painful second coil can be, especially for pugs, so this really only leaves one way to get that 110 gear. ST

ST, ST, ST, ST, ST............. what a snoozefest. The lack of pug friendly ways to get sands/oils is really starting to show. I don't know how many more of these I can run. I still need 3 sands and 3 oils to complete my 110 set........

My solution, make sands/oils accessible through either soldiery tomes or as dungeon drops from the 3 new i80 dungeons. noone really cares how long it takes to get to 110 now anyways, so why not reduce the nonsense factor and make it a little easier to get there.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Square won't do that because people would gear up too fast. People already had a chance to gather oils and sands from hunts and then from ST back when they dropped so little.

[Tex_Mex]

Square won't do that because people would gear up too fast. People already had a chance to gather oils and sands from hunts and then from ST back when they dropped so little.

explain exactly why square would even care about how fast people get to 110..... The new poetics are weekly capped and provide ilvl120 gear.... how long it takes to get to 110 is now irrelevant. Might as well make the content less boring and let sands/oils be acquired through other means besides ST as well

[MXMoondoggie]

explain exactly why square would even care about how fast people get to 110..... The new poetics are weekly capped and provide ilvl120 gear.... how long it takes to get to 110 is now irrelevant. Might as well make the content less boring and let sands/oils be acquired through other means besides ST as well

Because people would leave the game when they have done everything. Gear grind exists to keep people occupied and it's serving that purpose. They already took away the weekly cap so you can spam ST all day and farm sand/oil how much easier do they have to make it for people to get stuff? Too easy = boring and that's how a game dies

[ServerCollaps]

because getting served everything on a silver tray is a fun killer and demotivates really quick

[Itseotle]

because content is content, just because its outdated to you and I, doesn't mean it is for everyone else. What MilesSaintboroguh said was true, if you wanted to gear up through hunts alone, you had your chance at that, and you still can, its just most people (like you and I) take the easiest path, which happens to be ST. No one is forcing you to do ST.

[Garlyle]

With the massive nerfs to hunt rewards, there are only 2 ways left in order to get your characters gear lvl up to 110:

Last I checked, you get the same Soldiery and Allied Seal rewards from hunts as you did before.

You just don't get to roll in Myth tomes while you do it anymore.

[Lithera]

Last I checked, you get the same Soldiery and Allied Seal rewards from hunts as you did before.

You just don't get to roll in Myth tomes while you do it anymore.

This. The Allied Seals are what matter for Sands/Oils and the Hunts still drop Seals at the same rate. Unless you mean that not as many people are doing Hunts so the A/S Ranks are actually a tiny bit of a challenge and not a 30s faceroll for Seals.

[Spawnie]

110 stuff isnt that important anymores anyways so dont see what the problem is ;/

[papichulo123]

Forget st just do second coil