Up Commencement Time to 60 Seconds

[Bixby]

I have a question about the withdraw penalty. Do i get the penalty if i queue up for a dungeon but withdraw before my queue commencement window pops?

No. Withdrawals before the queue pops don't matter.

[Riepah]

I have a question about the withdraw penalty. Do i get the penalty if i queue up for a dungeon but withdraw before my queue commencement window pops?

No, you get it only if the commencement window shows up and you either do nothing or withdraw at that point. The only way to get out of a commencement window without a strike or entering the dungeon, is if somebody else withdraws (unless they are partied with you, then you get a strike as well)

[MageBlack]

Groovy! Thanks for the clarification!

[Fynlar]

Why are you trying to solo group content as any class?

Because like with the higher tier FATEs, it's not necessarily required to be in a party if others are there.

This one's just a lie. DPS have a much easier time on b-ranks because you can actually kill it quickly. As a healer or tank it takes me several minutes to kill a b-rank.

I don't usually "kill it quickly" as a DPS, I just get my ass kicked without a healer chocobo. As a healer or tank, I can easily sustain myself and outlast the mob without needing to bring out the companion.

This is, again, not solo content. Why are you trying to solo things that aren't meant to be? It's also worth noting that again, you still have the advantage. As a healer or tank these FATES will usually time out if tried solo. Every DPS can access defensive abilities. Use them.

See first response

Also, the only worthwhile "defensive ability" you can really use as a DPS is desyncing and using Second Wind and resyncing. Everything else is a joke compared to what tanks have at their disposal.

I've been aggroed in the mines when the duty pops. It is not difficult at all to pop sprint and find a corner within 45 seconds.

Okay, and what do you do when you reach that corner with twice the aggro that you had before, hmm?

[Oghmanyte]

The amount of hate in this thread is just staggering. Don't even try; there's no other word for it.

What sort of terrible lives do you people have that make you take such harsh attitudes toward each other?

FFXIV is a game, right? It's not a job, right?

If I saw this thread while deciding whether or not to join, I would turn right around and flee as fast as I could.

[Souljacker]

If I saw this thread while deciding whether or not to join, I would turn right around and flee as fast as I could.

And most of the folks in here would tell you not to let the door hit ya, because they don't want you in "their" game anyway.

[Giantbane]

Loading, yes. Cutscenes, no. You could easily grief other players by not advancing the cutscene.

I fail to see how you can grief others if the queue is skipping you while in a cutscene. Unless you're talking about a situation where you're literally the only person in that role for a certain period of time. But proper implementation should be transparent to anyone on the outside. To everyone else in the group it should look as if you weren't in the queue at all. So I guess that's trolling the queue if you consider a tank that doesn't queue for low level duties to be trolling the queue.

[melflomil]

How about if you miss you queue for a legitimate reason and next time you queue it will put you first instead of last of course limit this. If you don't queue back up in the next five minutes you go back to the line. It won't hold your spot but put you first in line for the duty you selected

[NyarukoW]

So every time I need to go in another room or need to get my dog in I should just leave the que? I don't think so.

If you know you can not be back in 45 seconds, you should leave the queue out of courtesy to everyone else. Just like in real life, if you need to do whatever for your kid, dog, etc. and you are drving, you don't get to stop in the middle of the road and hold everyone up, or talk obliviously on the phone while the light turns green etc. Whatever happened to common courtesy and respect for other players? They are not there to be taken for granted.

How about if you miss you queue for a legitimate reason and next time you queue it will put you first...

Why is this fair to anyone else? If you are waiting in lines at the movies, and you leave it to go to the bathroom, you do not get to cut in line. Usually you have your wife, husband, brother, sister whoever else with you to help hold your place, but if you ask the stranger behind you hold your place and line gets to the point where he has to go, and you are not back, you are not getting your place back. Furthermore it is actually quite rude to impose on to hold your place, you leave you go to the back of the line. And even if it your family, it is still quite rude to take them for granted this way, you take forever in the bathroom and everyone else passes them by because they are waiting for you, and wait there all by themselves for another however many minutes. Whatever happened to punctuality? Get your ducks in a row, go to the bathroom before you line up, should be common sense and common courtesy.

[Giantbane]

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Nyaruko, if someone has to get up to answer the door during an instance, do you scream at them and tell them how rude they are? Do you vote kick them out for wasting your time? Or is that an acceptable real life interruption you're willing to wait a couple min for?

Is it so wrong to brainstorm ways this type of idea might be integrated into the queue system?