Up Commencement Time to 60 Seconds

[IceSpear]

Why is it so hard to just click commence when it pops? I queue as dps, healer, tank and I always click commence, not once ever I had I missed the queue popping since 2.4 went live. And even in the past, I may have missed a queue pop or two in the 6 months prior because I got called to go fix the broken toilet or something and forgot all about the queue. I should have done the nice thing of leaving the queue first, but when an emergency calls, that is priority. So if I get strike I fully deserve it.

So every time I need to go in another room or need to get my dog in I should just leave the que? I don't think so.

[NyarukoW]

So every time I need to go in another room or need to get my dog in I should just leave the que? I don't think so.

If you know you can not be back in 45 seconds, you should leave the queue out of courtesy to everyone else. Just like in real life, if you need to do whatever for your kid, dog, etc. and you are drving, you don't get to stop in the middle of the road and hold everyone up, or talk obliviously on the phone while the light turns green etc. Whatever happened to common courtesy and respect for other players? They are not there to be taken for granted.

How about if you miss you queue for a legitimate reason and next time you queue it will put you first...

Why is this fair to anyone else? If you are waiting in lines at the movies, and you leave it to go to the bathroom, you do not get to cut in line. Usually you have your wife, husband, brother, sister whoever else with you to help hold your place, but if you ask the stranger behind you hold your place and line gets to the point where he has to go, and you are not back, you are not getting your place back. Furthermore it is actually quite rude to impose on to hold your place, you leave you go to the back of the line. And even if it your family, it is still quite rude to take them for granted this way, you take forever in the bathroom and everyone else passes them by because they are waiting for you, and wait there all by themselves for another however many minutes. Whatever happened to punctuality? Get your ducks in a row, go to the bathroom before you line up, should be common sense and common courtesy.

[Giantbane]

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Nyaruko, if someone has to get up to answer the door during an instance, do you scream at them and tell them how rude they are? Do you vote kick them out for wasting your time? Or is that an acceptable real life interruption you're willing to wait a couple min for?

Is it so wrong to brainstorm ways this type of idea might be integrated into the queue system?

[NyarukoW]

Nyaruko, if someone has to get up to answer the door during an instance, do you scream at them and tell them how rude they are?....

You know if they just go AFK without a word, I can promise you I will not the be first to start screaming at them. Usually they will have the good sense to ask for 1 minute or something. In which case everyone has a reasonable expectation of that is communicated. And after the minute, the group will decide whether if to vote kick. No screaming required.

The queuing system does not have communication between players from different server or players you don't even know you are going to get. Sure you can brainstorm about all the ways to integrate into the system, but if all it is unnecessary complications and more failure mode and troll opportunities, it is a non-starter. If any thing the system can use a simplification, removal of the withdraw button, and people will be forced into the instance. Whatever they were doing before that will be lost, canceled, etc.

Players will be required switch to their appropriate class while in instance in 45 seconds or less before that ring that surrounds the party goes away to progress into the instance. Failure to do so will cause them to be forcibly removed with a 30 minute penalty applied. Trolls that try to hide all the gear on their retainers and game the system will be punished appropriately People that choose to be AFK trolls will also be punished appropriately. Bottom if you don't want the withdraw penalty, you don't need the withdraw button. Right now it seems the withdraw button is like too much yarn for a cat to get itself strangled.

[Giantbane]

You know if they just go AFK without a word, I can promise you I will not the be first to start screaming at them. Usually they will have the good sense to ask for 1 minute or something. In which case everyone has a reasonable expectation of that is communicated. And after the minute, the group will decide whether if to vote kick. No screaming required.

The queuing system does not have communication between players from different server or players you don't even know you are going to get. Sure you can brainstorm about all the ways to integrate into the system, but if all it is unnecessary complications and more failure mode and troll opportunities, it is a non-starter. If any thing the system can use a simplification, removal of the withdraw button, and people will be forced into the instance. Players will be required switch to their appropriate class while in instance in 45 seconds or less before that ring that surrounds the party goes away to progress into the instance. Failure to do so will cause them to forcibly removed with a 30 minute penalty. Trolls that try to hide all the gear on their retainers and game the system will be punished appropriately

Or instead of trying to just to enforce ever stronger draconian measures in the hope that your player base won't eventually get tired of this, and quit, you could try to anticipate and work around problems that might potentially cause the situation. Or to provide leniency in situations where it would otherwise be acceptable to do so if communication were somehow allowed.

I don't agree with raising the time limit to 60 seconds. It just means more time spent when someone AFKs and I don't think it's going to help that much for helping those that might want it.

However, someone suggested a pause queue function at one point. This actually seems like a pretty good idea. It's like you're telling the queue that you need to step away for a couple min and the queue will skip you. Will remove incidences where players have to wait for a commencement window to fail when someone wants to go to the bathroom, answer the door, or whatever reasonable request you would probably honor and accept within a dungeon (where you have proper communication). Just have the feature time out in a few minutes (5?) similar to how you would only wait so long for that person to get back in a dungeon.

[Wildsprite]

You know if they just go AFK without a word, I can promise you I will not the be first to start screaming at them.

and what if that player goes AFK for a RL emergency and doesn't have time for those few precious seconds to say AFK? I can assure you if I was that player and you started screaming at me I would most definitely not be nice about it. I can think of a few choice words that would probably land me in front of a GM if they saw them.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

and what if that player goes AFK for a RL emergency and doesn't have time for those few precious seconds to say AFK? I can assure you if I was that player and you started screaming at me I would most definitely not be nice about it. I can think of a few choice words that would probably land me in front of a GM if they saw them.

Anyone with an emergency wouldn't be coming back for a good while. Let them be replaced with Someone else

[jerico79]

and what if that player goes AFK for a RL emergency and doesn't have time for those few precious seconds to say AFK? I can assure you if I was that player and you started screaming at me I would most definitely not be nice about it. I can think of a few choice words that would probably land me in front of a GM if they saw them.

If I have a real life emergency, I have far more important things to concern myself with than being yelled at or vote kicked in my dungeon in a game. Besides 9 times out of 10, random afks are not real life emergencies. The amount of moronic reasons i have heard when people come back without saying anything is enough for brain damage.