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  1. #11
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    Sakuraluna's Avatar
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    Malfoy Fleurentine
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    I completely agree. I missed a queue yesterday for being in a cs. DPS wait times is the real problem here, it takes so long that it makes no sense not to find something else to do to pass the time. It's not like DPS are intentionally trying to troll the df. Many of us just aren't gonna stand in Mor Dhona for hours on end doing nothing just because we're queued for something. I'm willing to assume that most of the people arguing in favor of these lockout penalties aren't actually doing much queuing as dps outside of premades.

    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    I would be happy if clicking "commence" just put your character back in the same state it was in when you entered the queue and overrides things like open transaction windows, market boards, cuscenes. etc. I've missed a queue before because I was frantically trying to exit out of my retainer, enter my character window, and change my job back. If I'm only on a controller, this is a real pain, one miss-click can really cost you precious seconds.
    ^ I love this idea. IMO that would have helped the situation a lot more than penalizing people for queuing as dps then actually playing the game while they wait for an instance to pop.

    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    Another solution is to see how long the actual queue is in front of you. Seeing that there are 100 dps sitting there before you changes things from seeing that you are number 5 in line.
    This would actually help a lot too, at least being able to estimate how much wait time I have before starting something else.
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    Last edited by Sakuraluna; 11-08-2014 at 08:36 AM.

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    Ember Rage
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    Coeurl
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    I'd rather they just speed up the queues.

    Are regular duty find & roulettes on different queues? Merge them into one. If players are queued for a duty, players in roulette should fill in the blanks.
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  3. #13
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    Catwho's Avatar
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    Katarh Mest
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by kidvideo View Post
    I'd rather they just speed up the queues.

    Are regular duty find & roulettes on different queues? Merge them into one. If players are queued for a duty, players in roulette should fill in the blanks.
    Naw, they're already merged. If you are a tank in roulette, you'll get sorted into whatever group needs a tank, regardless of how they got put in the queue (via DF or roulette.)
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  4. #14
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    Chen Kotomi
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    Adamantoise
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    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    I would be happy if clicking "commence" just put your character back in the same state it was in when you entered the queue and overrides things like open transaction windows, market boards, cuscenes. etc. I've missed a queue before because I was frantically trying to exit out of my retainer, enter my character window, and change my job back. If I'm only on a controller, this is a real pain, one miss-click can really cost you precious seconds.
    During the time between queueing up and the queue popping, you have upgraded your weapon and two pieces of armor, and filled one or more of your armoury chest boxes.
    You need to be able to account for this scenario from a programming/QOL standpoint before instituting it. You and I know this is unlikely, but the dozens of people that would be tossing GM tickets when they miss a queue because they got new pants didn't plan for it.

    That said, I agree with 60 seconds being a good idea.
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  5. #15
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    Syanonn Rias
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    Why is it so hard to just click commence when it pops? I queue as dps, healer, tank and I always click commence, not once ever I had I missed the queue popping since 2.4 went live. And even in the past, I may have missed a queue pop or two in the 6 months prior because I got called to go fix the broken toilet or something and forgot all about the queue. I should have done the nice thing of leaving the queue first, but when an emergency calls, that is priority. So if I get strike I fully deserve it.
    You know, some people don't just sit around and wait for queue.
    They might be in combat on another class or crafting a 1star+ recipe that can take them over 45 seconds to be able to change class and commence.
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    Alukah Bast
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    Don't forget about the beast strongholds, if you are deep inside Zahar'ak you will have a hard time getting rid of mobs, specially if those fortunetellers are patrolling all narrow paths, on top of that you have to wait around 5 seconds to change class once you leave combat.
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  7. 11-08-2014 10:15 AM
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    wrong thread >_<

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    Mayh Mullari
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    Cactuar
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I agree, all of the reasoning here makes a lot of sense.

    I had just teleported into Mor Dhona today when my queue popped. It always takes my computer forever to load into this zone, and I could hear the timer clicking down. I had 2 seconds left on the clock once I was finally able to accept it. (((╹д╹))
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  9. #18
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    Gilgamesh
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    An additional 15s is not gonna hurt anybody, especially since missing your queue can result in a penalty
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  10. #19
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    Kaya Yuuna
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    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    Why is it so hard to just click commence when it pops? I queue as dps, healer, tank and I always click commence, not once ever I had I missed the queue popping since 2.4 went live. And even in the past, I may have missed a queue pop or two in the 6 months prior because I got called to go fix the broken toilet or something and forgot all about the queue. I should have done the nice thing of leaving the queue first, but when an emergency calls, that is priority. So if I get strike I fully deserve it.
    because when you've waited 30 minutes already, you can be caught midcraft or fate or hunt when it does pop.
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  11. #20
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    I would be happy if clicking "commence" just put your character back in the same state it was in when you entered the queue and overrides things like open transaction windows, market boards, cuscenes. etc. I've missed a queue before because I was frantically trying to exit out of my retainer, enter my character window, and change my job back. If I'm only on a controller, this is a real pain, one miss-click can really cost you precious seconds.
    keyboard:
    press Esc until all windows are closed
    have gear sets on a hotbar

    controller:
    press circle button until all windows are closed
    have gear sets on a crossbar
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    Last edited by Felis; 11-08-2014 at 07:36 PM.

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