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    Player
    Tao's Avatar
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    C'tao Gray
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toodles View Post
    I know plenty of people WELL above the minimum specs for this game who run into the load-screen causing them to miss queues all the time.

    That is a problem.

    45 seconds isn't enough.
    I play on PS4 and even when going to mor dhona I don't have this time of login time so their PC is not well above spec and they should probably buy a SSD and put FF on it they will have like 5s max loading time.

    About CS, you need 3 Withdraw in a day to get penalty ... I really think you can cancel your CS after one withdraw so you won't have any chance to be locked out.

    I don't understand this thread at least now I don't have more than one or two (for ST) withdraw when seeking.
    I'm probably the only one int this topic but thank you SE you have achieved your goal
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    Last edited by Tao; 11-21-2014 at 04:31 PM.

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    Lemuria Glitterhands
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zirael_Foxfire View Post
    That was then, now things have changed. You can't even finish reading a stupid cutscene without penalty...
    Then don't run such content while queuing for a dungeon? I'm really not seeing how this is anyone's problem but the person who got themselves in such a situation they they're unable to click a button.

    It doesn't take a genius to see that this is only impacting the people who were causing the problems which led to this change in the first place. I'd say it's working as intended.
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    Tahlato Dakwhil
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    The timer was set at 45 seconds to give consideration to players who have already selected to commence the content, and as such we do not have any plans at the moment to increase this.
    Yay this is good news
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    The timer was set at 45 seconds to give consideration to players who have already selected to commence the content.
    ...what a world we live in. God forbid that people have to wait an entire 45 SECONDS in the first place <_< I really don't know how they manage to survive. Thank heavens for the "consideration" you gave to those people

    I suppose if it was increased to 60 seconds, people would just stop queueing because waiting that extra 15 seconds is probably enough to kill somebody. Holy hell. How dare the public have to wait 15 extra seconds so that DPS who sit in queues for 30+ minutes can actually progress in their story quest and read the lore somebody worked so hard to make. Having people skip cutscenes and fail synths is clearly a better option than having those healers and tanks who get an instant queue to not have to wait 15 extra seconds.

    How...considerate.

    It's a wonder how some people manage to survive while waiting for their hot-pocket to heat up in the microwave.

    /end sarcasm

    No offense meant to anyone, however the very idea of some people thinking that waiting 60 seconds (or 45 for some) is too long in any situation...is sad.
    The modern gaming community makes me sad.
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    Last edited by WinterSolstice; 11-21-2014 at 04:41 AM.

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    Copain Chevalier
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    Hyperion
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    Armorer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    The timer was set at 45 seconds to give consideration to players who have already selected to commence the content, and as such we do not have any plans at the moment to increase this.
    Thank you, I really don't want to have to wait around longer. Already annoying waiting what I do when people just want to troll by clicking at last second.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteDragon View Post
    Thank you, I really don't want to have to wait around longer. Already annoying waiting what I do when people just want to troll by clicking at last second.
    Yes because 45 seconds is a travesty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    Newer players to MMO games will likely draw from their experiences playing FPS games, GTA, Dragon Age, Skyrim, etc.. and they will evaluate a MMO based on that criteria. But other online games (and offline RPGs) are designed to be picked up, played for maybe 5 months and then abandoned for when the next big game comes along. A Veteran MMO gamer knows that the experience of the game is stretched out over years, and if crafted properly, it leaves players with some of the best gaming experiences to be found anywhere.
    Quote Originally Posted by kazeandi View Post
    This is the problem most content is solo and you get your group action from a cross-server queueing tool. This is not like older MMOs where servers developed real communities. It's more like MacDonald's Drive-Thru, where you queue up, do your run, then never meet those people again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarzak View Post
    Yes because 45 seconds is a travesty.
    I shouldn't have to wait around several minutes for people to time out each time, and then wait around 59 seconds for the slow guy. If you are slow enough to the point where you can't exit combat and switch jobs, you can easily get around this by playing the job you want to go in as while farming (which I don't really get why if you're in queue as DPS you wouldn't just stay on that job while farming open world, but whatever), or just put the job you're going to play as on your hotbars so you can change at the click of a button.

    No reason I should have to wait around because people can't be bothered to even make the most basic effort to combat against the issue and instead just complain that SE should fix it. If I'm farming and something pops it takes me five seconds to get out of combat (Even in Sapsa like people are complaining about).

    The only half valid point people have is the cutscene one, fifteen seconds isn't going to help you in most cases if you're actually reading the text or watching it. I don't think you should just idle around, but I think it's ridiculous that you set yourself up to fail.
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    Last edited by WhiteDragon; 11-21-2014 at 05:29 AM.

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    Airget Lamh
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    Hyperion
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    Botanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    The timer was set at 45 seconds to give consideration to players who have already selected to commence the content, and as such we do not have any plans at the moment to increase this.
    Ya but I feel they aren't looking at it from the current perspective based on changes they have made to it.

    DF was designed for ease of content, however with the latest 30 min timer penalty this has added a risk for DD players with longer wait times compared to healers and tank and because of this risk, missing a commence isn't as simple as oh I can just re-queue it's cool it turns into, I have to stare at my computer and wait it out cause if I miss it then I"m locked out from doing anything for 30 minutes.

    There is no consideration for 2/4 of the party but there is consideration for the tanks and healers that can get parties faster? Their wait times aren't as bad by any means, they can afford to withdraw before a party starts, use the bathroom come back and put duty back up. DD can't do they they risk losing their spot if they do get caught in a commence when they are MIA for 45 seconds. And then waiting another 30 mins on top of the 30+ they spent waiting for a Duty in the first place.
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    Ophie-Mio's Avatar
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    Yoongi Mio
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    DF was designed for ease of content, however with the latest 30 min timer penalty this has added a risk for DD players with longer wait times compared to healers and tank and because of this risk, missing a commence isn't as simple as oh I can just re-queue it's cool it turns into, I have to stare at my computer and wait it out cause if I miss it then I"m locked out from doing anything for 30 minutes.

    There is no consideration for 2/4 of the party but there is consideration for the tanks and healers that can get parties faster?
    When I explained my scenario, I did so using all my knowledge of it, which also includes my time as a DPS queuer.

    There is no risk other than just figure out the things you can reasonably do while waiting. These statements about how people can't even go to the bathroom is so silly. I've done all these things on everything except tank. I've done SO much while in a queue and never had any issues. Hell, if I'm so worried, I'll fate hop and stay away from from what I know is a beefier boss. Why attempt Cancer on a different job when I'm in DF and I have NO idea what's going to happen there?

    And the reasonable portion of the people that are answering here are not giving examples of how wonderful it is that they are healer/tank and can do whatever. Take the dps vs healer/tank queues somewhere else. I have no idea where you're getting that it's giving healer/tank more consideration considering that we are restricted by the same things. In case of a healer in T7 queue last night, 20 minute queue + timer runs out + 29 minute queue. What you're arguing about is how much DPS queues suck when you've missed it.

    Long story short, if you can't handle the responsibility of queueing for DF and actually hitting commence in the 45 seconds that they've given, then you obviously shouldn't be in a DF.
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    Last edited by Ophie-Mio; 11-21-2014 at 06:49 AM.

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    Inzoum's Avatar
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    Inzoum Zimia
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    Masamune
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    The timer was set at 45 seconds (...) we do not have any plans at the moment to increase this.
    What ever happened to "You can craft or level up something else while you wait for Duty Finder to pop"... Have you even tried finishing a 4 star craft, standing back up from crafting pose and switching jobs within the allotted 45 seconds? it's VERY tight. Upping the countdown to 60 seconds is not such a big deal, but it would make a lot of us very relieved.

    The current situation means we'd better stick to our job and NOT start anything else while we wait for Duty to be ready.

    Basically, we should avoid playing the game while we wait for Duty Finder, in case it pops and we don't have time to finish what we started in the meantime, but we should also avoid NOT playing the game in case it pops while we're not paying attention.

    You're suggesting we should stand there doing nothing but stare at the box until it's ready to click.

    Quality entertainment.
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