Up Commencement Time to 60 Seconds

[NyarukoW]

Nyaruko, if someone has to get up to answer the door during an instance, do you scream at them and tell them how rude they are?....

You know if they just go AFK without a word, I can promise you I will not the be first to start screaming at them. Usually they will have the good sense to ask for 1 minute or something. In which case everyone has a reasonable expectation of that is communicated. And after the minute, the group will decide whether if to vote kick. No screaming required.

The queuing system does not have communication between players from different server or players you don't even know you are going to get. Sure you can brainstorm about all the ways to integrate into the system, but if all it is unnecessary complications and more failure mode and troll opportunities, it is a non-starter. If any thing the system can use a simplification, removal of the withdraw button, and people will be forced into the instance. Whatever they were doing before that will be lost, canceled, etc.

Players will be required switch to their appropriate class while in instance in 45 seconds or less before that ring that surrounds the party goes away to progress into the instance. Failure to do so will cause them to be forcibly removed with a 30 minute penalty applied. Trolls that try to hide all the gear on their retainers and game the system will be punished appropriately People that choose to be AFK trolls will also be punished appropriately. Bottom if you don't want the withdraw penalty, you don't need the withdraw button. Right now it seems the withdraw button is like too much yarn for a cat to get itself strangled.

[Giantbane]

You know if they just go AFK without a word, I can promise you I will not the be first to start screaming at them. Usually they will have the good sense to ask for 1 minute or something. In which case everyone has a reasonable expectation of that is communicated. And after the minute, the group will decide whether if to vote kick. No screaming required.

The queuing system does not have communication between players from different server or players you don't even know you are going to get. Sure you can brainstorm about all the ways to integrate into the system, but if all it is unnecessary complications and more failure mode and troll opportunities, it is a non-starter. If any thing the system can use a simplification, removal of the withdraw button, and people will be forced into the instance. Players will be required switch to their appropriate class while in instance in 45 seconds or less before that ring that surrounds the party goes away to progress into the instance. Failure to do so will cause them to forcibly removed with a 30 minute penalty. Trolls that try to hide all the gear on their retainers and game the system will be punished appropriately

Or instead of trying to just to enforce ever stronger draconian measures in the hope that your player base won't eventually get tired of this, and quit, you could try to anticipate and work around problems that might potentially cause the situation. Or to provide leniency in situations where it would otherwise be acceptable to do so if communication were somehow allowed.

I don't agree with raising the time limit to 60 seconds. It just means more time spent when someone AFKs and I don't think it's going to help that much for helping those that might want it.

However, someone suggested a pause queue function at one point. This actually seems like a pretty good idea. It's like you're telling the queue that you need to step away for a couple min and the queue will skip you. Will remove incidences where players have to wait for a commencement window to fail when someone wants to go to the bathroom, answer the door, or whatever reasonable request you would probably honor and accept within a dungeon (where you have proper communication). Just have the feature time out in a few minutes (5?) similar to how you would only wait so long for that person to get back in a dungeon.

[Wildsprite]

You know if they just go AFK without a word, I can promise you I will not the be first to start screaming at them.

and what if that player goes AFK for a RL emergency and doesn't have time for those few precious seconds to say AFK? I can assure you if I was that player and you started screaming at me I would most definitely not be nice about it. I can think of a few choice words that would probably land me in front of a GM if they saw them.

[lvlagmarink]

I let the timer ran out once because i was watching cutscene in hildibrand quest, i skipped the cutscene, yet another one "to be continued" cutscene occured which cannot be skipped.. If only i have 15 more seconds, i would've made it {:v)

[lvlagmarink]

And i just let the timer ran out again simply because last cutscene in lv 45 ninja "Tough Guys" cannot be skipped.. It takes more than 45seconds (the cutscene itself with additional scene "the soul has giving you more power bla bla bla bla")..
If one is supposed to sitting like a good duck waiting for duty pops, why allow people to change class/jobs when readying duty in the first place?

The timer was set at 45 seconds to give consideration to players who have already selected to commence the content, and as such we do not have any plans at the moment to increase this.

You need to take into consideration that nothing in this games force you to load stuff more than 45 s with screen loading included. Try to imagine seeing stupid Karasu or that manderville face while the game gives you a strike because you let the timer runs out

[Lemuria]

That was then, now things have changed. You can't even finish reading a stupid cutscene without penalty...

Then don't run such content while queuing for a dungeon? I'm really not seeing how this is anyone's problem but the person who got themselves in such a situation they they're unable to click a button.

It doesn't take a genius to see that this is only impacting the people who were causing the problems which led to this change in the first place. I'd say it's working as intended.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

and what if that player goes AFK for a RL emergency and doesn't have time for those few precious seconds to say AFK? I can assure you if I was that player and you started screaming at me I would most definitely not be nice about it. I can think of a few choice words that would probably land me in front of a GM if they saw them.

Anyone with an emergency wouldn't be coming back for a good while. Let them be replaced with Someone else

[jerico79]

and what if that player goes AFK for a RL emergency and doesn't have time for those few precious seconds to say AFK? I can assure you if I was that player and you started screaming at me I would most definitely not be nice about it. I can think of a few choice words that would probably land me in front of a GM if they saw them.

If I have a real life emergency, I have far more important things to concern myself with than being yelled at or vote kicked in my dungeon in a game. Besides 9 times out of 10, random afks are not real life emergencies. The amount of moronic reasons i have heard when people come back without saying anything is enough for brain damage.

[BigPapaSmurf]

SE, please, this is NOT okay.

About 7 seconds later my load screen ended.

[Marius_Wynyard]

60 seconds sounds reasonable to me, but how long before people say 60 seconds isn't long enough they need 90 seconds? 2 minutes? 3 minutes? For some people there will never be enough time.