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    Raveen Raines
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    Summoner stat weights 2.4?

    This is probably a really stupid question but I was wondering what the stat weights for Crit, Det, and SS are for SMN for 2.4. I've always valued accuracy first to cap and then Crit above all else followed by Det, and then SS as a last resort. I've had a couple people who don't play SMN tell me that Det is a better stat and that I should generally try to grab det above crit. I've seen posts for other jobs that have a specific stat weight for their secondary stats. Where do people come up with these numbers?
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    Rhel Eryut
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Summoner Stat Weight Crit>Det>Accuracy>SS
    Generally Crit and Det can be swapped based on which stat is easier to get.
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    Kori Fleming
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    Same as always. I don't have numbers, but from what I've always took as read is that DoTs critting > stronger consistent DoTs. SS just drains your TP faster from Ruin Spamming. Unfortunately a lot of caster gear this patch is overloaded with SS, much to the detriment of all the SMN's out there. Things aren't as bad as they seem, but they are quite grim.
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    Elenath Lanthir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sequora View Post
    This is probably a really stupid question but I was wondering what the stat weights for Crit, Det, and SS are for SMN for 2.4. I've always valued accuracy first to cap and then Crit above all else followed by Det, and then SS as a last resort. I've had a couple people who don't play SMN tell me that Det is a better stat and that I should generally try to grab det above crit. I've seen posts for other jobs that have a specific stat weight for their secondary stats. Where do people come up with these numbers?
    Don't listen to these people. Determination becomes less important as Intelligence since it doesn't benefit from it, though it does benefit from Critical Hit. However, Critical Hit benefits from both Intelligence and Determination therefore making more important as Intelligence rises. I didn't sit down for this stats weight for 2.4 but I would guesstimate that Critical Hit would be near identical to Determination even not if slightly higher and since the stat points allocation allows for more Critical Hit than Determination to be place on gear, stat weights for Summoner in 2.4 would be:

    1. Critical Hit
    2. Determination
    3. Spell Speed
    Though for this patch. it seems Square Enix decided to play a sick joke on us and force as much Spell Speed as possible down our throat.
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    D'ryha Zypher
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    Interestingly, though, at about 750 Spell speed, you get one extra GCD in your DWT, which is nice. I wouldn't completely discount SS, although it does feel much less valuable other than that one threshold.
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    Whiston Aglaeca
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tateah View Post
    Interestingly, though, at about 750 Spell speed, you get one extra GCD in your DWT, which is nice. I wouldn't completely discount SS, although it does feel much less valuable other than that one threshold.
    Holy cow man.
    You found a thread so old, Summoner didn't even have the skills you're talking about in your post!

    I'm not sure if I'm impressed or stupefied.
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    Lunar Emerald
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    Leviathan
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    Summoner w/ Garuda – No book smacking:

    WD: 11.835
    INT: 1.000
    DET: 0.192
    CRT: 0.287
    SS: 0.195

    https://dervyxiv.wordpress.com/stat-weights/
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