The new Gather/Craft Gear is Meh and OMG why so little reward?

[WHS]

I wanted to just sit in my corner and say nothing. I did. However as a crafter gatherer type person I cannot sit and say nothing to what has happened here. The new gear we have to craft is meh and the upgraded stats are not noteworthy. Sure theres that one free extra meld spot and sure they may meld higher some. But 3 points here or there while it adds up is not a big jump in the grand scheme of things. This gear should have been ILVL 70 and on par with the new OT and the MH before it. I just don't get it and the pieces gosh are over 3 mil to 4 mil for some.

I have no problems with people making money on gear. Hell I do the same thing too. So my complaint as you might deem it is not about the MB or it's prices. It's to be expected considering what it takes to make this new gear and the mats it takes. I do see that for sure. I just do not get why SE was so meager and small in its rewards of stats on this gear. Why was it ILVL60 and not 70? That's my real beef and leaves me worried for the days to come. How much more small rewards for over exaggerated work are the next crafting or gathering gears gonna be like?

If someone can show me how all this new gear is so worth it please do so. I would love to rest easier tonight.

[WHS]

Platinum Nuggets are 5k each, and Platinum Ingots are 50k each. Seems to me like they aren't worth the time even if you mine your own ore.... lol Hopefully people are right about new recipes automatically being added in a later patch, for people who purchase the Master II book (and further still, hopefully they don't shaft us and release a Master III book instead).

It's comments like these that also have me worried. I see the cycle of battleclass gear getting repped every so many months. I've settled thats the way it is gonna be and look forward to it. (lol)

However crafting and gathering are so expensive to build up as the rest of you already know by now. It's like someone said already:

So the only point of crafting and gathering is to build up your crafter and gatherer?

Which is fine to me. As long as I get a chance to do it. With these hurdles to gear right now and the time it takes some of us, some faster than others I know, but the gear becomes outdated and obsolete before you can even make it and with the stats sometimes I have to wonder why bother.

[RiceisNice]

IMO, it's the offhands that are really worth a look at (which requires master I books). The problem is that they're all gated by materials that are only obtainable by Rank 7 Ixali...when SE said something along the lines of "We don't want beast tribes awarding best stuff" or something something... when they added their input about the ixali smithing gloves.

The Master II books also put you at the mercy of RNG unlike any I've ever seen as far as crafting is concerned, moreso than crafting the stuff for the master I books.

[axemtitanium]

3 points of control here and there on the new pieces is not "meh". It is absolutely 100% no if-ands-or-buts about it REQUIRED to do 4 star crafts. The actual value of those few points of control is minuscule in terms of how much quality it gives. However, they're necessary to meed the new crafter gear check for 4 star crafts (451 craftsmanship / 407 control). Unless you penta-meld the new offhand tool with tier IV materia, it is impossible to reach the minimum reqs for the new recipes without the new i60 crafter body pieces. So no, it's not "little reward", it's 100% necessary and worth it.

[WHS]

@axemtitanium thanks for that info. I think I just needed to hear it and feel reassured I'm working for a worthwhile goal. Thanks very much for your reply. Much better now.

[Giantbane]

3 points of control here and there on the new pieces is not "meh". It is absolutely 100% no if-ands-or-buts about it REQUIRED to do 4 star crafts. The actual value of those few points of control is minuscule in terms of how much quality it gives. However, they're necessary to meed the new crafter gear check for 4 star crafts (451 craftsmanship / 407 control). Unless you penta-meld the new offhand tool with tier IV materia, it is impossible to reach the minimum reqs for the new recipes without the new i60 crafter body pieces. So no, it's not "little reward", it's 100% necessary and worth it.

But the i110 stuff is so ... meh. Reward seems kind of low given the effort to get there.

[Teryaani]

3 points of control here and there on the new pieces is not "meh". It is absolutely 100% no if-ands-or-buts about it REQUIRED to do 4 star crafts. The actual value of those few points of control is minuscule in terms of how much quality it gives. However, they're necessary to meed the new crafter gear check for 4 star crafts (451 craftsmanship / 407 control). Unless you penta-meld the new offhand tool with tier IV materia, it is impossible to reach the minimum reqs for the new recipes without the new i60 crafter body pieces. So no, it's not "little reward", it's 100% necessary and worth it.

This is good to know. It basically means that, for me, it's not worth bothering with anything crafting related until they do their "balancing" in 2.45 and possibly not even worth it for me then. Which sucks.

[Alukah]

Well, Sealants aside, don't look at it as you upgrading one crafting class, remember you are taking the effort to upgrade all 8 classes with one single set.

[GalkaBikini]

Going to be funny when the only people that have all this stuff are the only ones that can craft the airships in the expansion

[Lemuria]

3 points of control here and there on the new pieces is not "meh". It is absolutely 100% no if-ands-or-buts about it REQUIRED to do 4 star crafts.

And that's exactly WHY it sucks all the more. You put in INSANE levels of effort to get to 3-star only to have all your hard work completely undone because you need to meld another set of gear with PERFECT stats (which is no cakewalk) just to get that measly 3 control. What they SHOULD have done is create PROPER level 70 gear which would also act as a means for giving a bit more leeway for people who aren't lucky enough to be able to penta-meld everything with expensive materias.

So no, it's not "little reward", it's 100% necessary and worth it.

It's totally not worth it. The 4-star crafts are pretty meaningless in the grand scheme of things, adding only glamors to the game and little else. In fact, I daresay the whole of the crafting system has been turned topsy-turvy by terrible management and meaningless upgrades.

The sooner they release some PROPER gear that we can be proud of the happier I'll be. There's no reason for them to be so constantly stingy when it comes to adding craftsmanship and control upgrades on gear, ESPECIALLY given the insane requirements of the higher tier melds.