Let Us Change Skin-Color at Aesthetician

[Animarelic]

Having the Fantasias change only Race, Gender and Clan could lower the price however, I still see us paying around 10 bucks for a gender and race change regardless of whether skin tone is included or not.

From A technical stand-point they would have to do A Major update to the creation system when they could invest that time into something else like better designs & emotes for the current races.

Personally, I feel like it might borderline be over customization. Allowing us single player customization in an MMO where your look is supposed to be your identity doesn't sit well with me. I barely recognize people with out name tags now, so I can only imagine my frustration when a friend or FC member goes through 10 identities in less than A week.

Customization needs to be more open but it should still be about making choices that last and you should pay to make major changes. Going a few shades more gray like a Tan I'm fine with, but being able to turn any color on the spectrum at will, I'll save that for single player console games.

[Niwashi]

From A technical stand-point they would have to do A Major update to the creation system when they could invest that time into something else like better designs & emotes for the current races.

While I guess that's possible depending on how it's currently implemented, it seems really unlikely.

The interface is the same as is used during character creation (or fantasia, or hiring a retainer) except that there are more features included in any of those other situations. It seems very unlikely that SE would have re-written the customization from scratch for the aesthetician and just make the UI for it look like the character creation one. They almost certainly used the system they already had, and which already has all those other customization features built into it. They just did something to disable access to several of its features when we reach it from the aesthetician. All they'd need to do is remove or modify the access-disabling rule.

From a technical perspective, this shouldn't be a major update. It should just be a decision and a minor tweak.

Personally, I feel like it might borderline be over customization. Allowing us single player customization in an MMO where your look is supposed to be your identity doesn't sit well with me. I barely recognize people with out name tags now, so I can only imagine my frustration when a friend or FC member goes through 10 identities in less than A week.

Customization needs to be more open but it should still be about making choices that last and you should pay to make major changes. Going a few shades more gray like a Tan I'm fine with, but being able to turn any color on the spectrum at will, I'll save that for single player console games.

What about something like:

Race, clan, and gender remain exclusive to Fantasia. All other appearance settings are available from the aesthetician, but instead of a flat 1,000 gil to make changes, you pay according to the number of features changed, and perhaps even according to which features are changed. The costs would be chosen so that a single minor alteration would remain relatively cheap, but a complete makeover that leaves you looking like an entirely different character would require a fairly major investment of gil.

I think that would generally discourage the "going through 10 identities in less than a week" pattern. But it would make any individual adjustment available to those who care about it.

It would also leave Fantasia sales revenue intact from players wanting to change race, gender, or clan (and perhaps even occasionally from someone who wants a complete makeover of other features, but who tends to be more cash strapped in-game than they are IRL, so doesn't want to spend the gil for a major aesthetician makeover).


p.s. I thought your reference to "allowing us single player customization in an MMO" sounded a bit strange. Character customization is pretty rare in single player games. It's almost exclusively an MMO feature. The only single player games I can think of with anything of the kind are ones that are borrowing very heavily from an MMO style. (None of the single player Final Fantasies allow any character customization besides name and class, and not all of them allow those.)

[Khubla_Kha]

Yay, another example of the griminess of a sub based game using cash shop for aesthetic changes to the character you already pay to play. Awesome stuff. Not that this is new or anything.

[Animarelic]

p.s. I thought your reference to "allowing us single player customization in an MMO" sounded a bit strange. Character customization is pretty rare in single player games. It's almost exclusively an MMO feature. The only single player games I can think of with anything of the kind are ones that are borrowing very heavily from an MMO style. (None of the single player Final Fantasies allow any character customization besides name and class, and not all of them allow those.)

Single Player Customization is more commonly seen in Open world/Sandbox and Sports Games. Elder Scrolls, Mass Effect, Fall Out, Saint'sRow and Dragon Age are some. Also Final Fantasy Crystal chronicles series allows customization. FF Flagship Titles are story driven so you won't have those options. Character customization is not remotely exclusive to MMO's and haven't been for a very long time. Though some of these games have MMO Features they are at base single player games.

Yay, another example of the griminess of a sub based game using cash shop for aesthetic changes to the character you already pay to play. Awesome stuff. Not that this is new or anything.

You do realize FFXIV has the cheapest Character customization options available other games charge you more for less. NO MMORPG created gives out free customization and I doubt SE is going to be the Pioneer no matter how hard people complain.

[Ametrine]

Xenosaga Chronicles X had a ridiculously long series of quests that eventually rewarded you with total character customization, and I liked the variety behind it (honestly, if that world went MMO with all the aliens being playable and customizable, I'd peace out of here, but I digress)


I would like for skintone and eye-color to be added, as well, even if it's done througb an extra process or quests. I'm not sure how Jaindelaine would handle us stripping down for a spray tan or.... Lightening? What would you even call artificial skin lightening?

[Naunet]

Race, clan, and gender remain exclusive to Fantasia. All other appearance settings are available from the aesthetician, but instead of a flat 1,000 gil to make changes, you pay according to the number of features changed, and perhaps even according to which features are changed. The costs would be chosen so that a single minor alteration would remain relatively cheap, but a complete makeover that leaves you looking like an entirely different character would require a fairly major investment of gil.

This is pretty much what Rift and WildStar have. I like it.

You do realize FFXIV has the cheapest Character customization options available other games charge you more for less. NO MMORPG created gives out free customization and I doubt SE is going to be the Pioneer no matter how hard people complain.

I can literally go to the chop shop in WildStar and change every single thing about my character's appearance (outside of race) with a simple plat fee.

[TaranTatsuuchi]

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You do realize FFXIV has the cheapest Character customization options available other games charge you more for less. NO MMORPG created gives out free customization and I doubt SE is going to be the Pioneer no matter how hard people complain.

City of Heroes/Villians, Star Trek Online, Champions Online...

All of those have, iirc, full customization of the options available to you at creation for your race for just an ingame currency fee.
All those MMO games have been created, though CoH/V has since been shut down.

[starLivitation]

Yay, another example of the griminess of a sub based game using cash shop for aesthetic changes to the character you already pay to play. Awesome stuff. Not that this is new or anything.

ye considering we pay 12$ per month is it too much to ask to change a slight shade with the aesthetician? let alone develop new options, we are over 3 years of game release now.

[starLivitation]

Yay, another example of the griminess of a sub based game using cash shop for aesthetic changes to the character you already pay to play. Awesome stuff. Not that this is new or anything.

exactly... its not new, but we ask SE to change some of that, hopefully they will listen.

[Valenth]

Weren't eye- and skin colour changes on Jandelaine in the works at some point? I somehow remember hearing/reading about it from an interview or Live Letter and have been waiting for a while now.