For a future high level raid, would you like to see...?

[Sadonix]

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Sorry but that's incorrect at least for me,and some other people that I know of.

The only real reason I ever went through the pain of coil and ex primal is because it's a gating to progress further into FFXIV story. The loot is just a bonus,as in,it's nice to have it but I don't feel the necessity to farm the heck out of them until you get those loots.

Also on this occasion,I want to add that SE should have made seperate contents for those people who glorify shiny loots and leave story-based content out of it. I feel that FFXIV strongest point in the current MMO competition is in its graphic,sound and story and imo it's stupid to mix those final loot-based content(which should be accessible to the exclusive minority who's up to extreme challenge) with story progression(which should be accessible to the majority with moderate challenge).

[kyuven]

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Challenge is fine. Repeated challenge for no reward is tedious. Why do you think the queues for Gilgamesh and Westwind are so long when they're not giving a light bonus?

[Sadonix]

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Sorry but I think you might miss out the content of my post entirely. In any case I was not advocating for any sort of "repeated challenge for no reward".

Also gilgamesh is one of the few fun trials I always feel eager to do even outside of trial roulette,anytime I'm bored I just hit it up and it usually fill up fast. Can't say the same for ex primals though.

[Delily]

The only real reason I ever went through the pain of coil and ex primal is because it's a gating to progress further into FFXIV story. The loot is just a bonus,as in,it's nice to have it but I don't feel the necessity to farm the heck out of them until you get those loots.

This is probably true of a great many players. Gear is secondary, the content itself is more important.

[Kuwagami]

This is probably true of a great many players. Gear is secondary, the content itself is more important.

You're greatly underestimating the amount of people running raids only for the loot piñata and who don't care at all about why they're fighting this or that.