Coil 5 changes needed

[baopee]

I had pug and down from pre-50 contects to T7 also all the em primals besides shiva, Maybe i was lucky, but nerf T5 more is not going to solve the problem, people just need to work on and understand the mechanics. With echo, ilvl 90 group should have no problem to clear it.

I do understand T5 is like a huge road block for a lot of players, but that is also a skills check point for future contents, SE made it hard for a reason.

[kyuven]

I do understand T5 is like a huge road block for a lot of players, but that is also a skills check point for future contents, SE made it hard for a reason.

it's pretty simple, really. It's the first fight that actually requires every player to pay attention to something other than their health bar and punishes the RAID for mistakes rather than the individual. Even Titan EX (the other roadblock) only directly punishes the individual for failing mechanics.
It's a large shift from all the content before it, but a really good indicator of what the second tier EX primals (thornmarch, levi, ramuh, and shiva) and t6+ are going to start inflicting upon you.
That combined with the very real existence of people who refuse to stick around as the new players learn it even when they join through PF leads to a lot of disgruntled players.
Thus the negative sentiment is understandable, but it doesn't need to be fixed. Can't fix bad players.