Coil 5 changes needed

[Nutz]

because they're not true friends ?

My FC regularly helps people get their T5 kill or at least we try to (sometimes it just ends up being a 2 hours training session with no kill). Who cares ? OMG we lost 2 hours doing old content. Well, no. We helped someone for 2 hours. Not the same

Well, to be fair, there are several people (most really) who don't want to train someone for 2 hours on a fight that they themselves know very well already...and then do it again for someone else a day later...and again the next day for another person, and so on. I think probably everybody's got a few "clears for friends" in them after they've finished a difficult fight, but there's a limit eventually.

[Beyondgrave]

You can bring as many people as you want, won't do you much help when everyone if not most of the group die to twister, died to dive bomb or fail with conflag. So yea..dps can only get you soo far, you still need to do your homework and learn the mechanics of the fight. There's a reason why it's there.If there's no mechanic, everything thing will be dull a heck.

[AiChyan]

You can bring as many people as you want, won't do you much help when everyone if not most of the group die to twister, died to dive bomb or fail with conflag. So yea..dps can only get you soo far, you still need to do your homework and learn the mechanics of the fight. There's a reason why it's there.If there's no mechanic, everything thing will be dull a heck.

This. People just don't realize this needs practice and lots of attempts and hours spent on it. Just have to choose the right group to do it. why recruit complete newbies if you already know divebombs? or why stop at divebombs if you know twisters? Recruit the right people and you will clear it. And nerfing isn't really a solution, because if people can't clear T5 as is, I can't see how they can clear scob or fcob.

[Alukah]

I think the main cause of wipe in t5 is people not using focus target for twisters.

...and tunnel vision at conflag/fireball

...and having game sounds off/playing music when divebombs will be casted, with a really-hard-to-miss alert sound

But mainly focus target.

[Beyondgrave]

This. People just don't realize this needs practice and lots of attempts and hours spent on it. Just have to choose the right group to do it. why recruit complete newbies if you already know divebombs? or why stop at divebombs if you know twisters? Recruit the right people and you will clear it. And nerfing isn't really a solution, because if people can't clear T5 as is, I can't see how they can clear scob or fcob.

Or MEX,LEX,REX ect. All of which imo is harder than t5 lol

[Ellatrix]

You seen a video, and therefore, it's label as "so easy". That's silly. Can you do it? Alrighty then.

I've seen plenty of T5 videos, streams, you name it. I've spent over 35 hours in that damn turn. I know the fight, the problem is, 7 other people who know and cleared the fight, don't want to do it anymore.

Why do they not want to do it? You know damn well why.

Sorry, I'm busy on T13 progression and don't have time to revisit a fight from a year ago. It isn't something that would be hard to do if I found a few people who were bored though.

Also I've basically 4man it before in DF when we queued with 4 and the other 4 just died.

[Delorean]

So, beating coil 5 in duty finder is nearly impossible.

Then stop trying to beat it in the DF.

A lot of us spent weeks on Turn 5, if not a month or more... Why should something that took that much time and effort be easy enough for a bunch of DF players to just pop all of their CDs and tunnel boss until it's dead? Why should you get, in 10 minutes, what it took us to weeks to get?

Echo is more than enough

[RufusShinra78]

This entire thread is BS. If you can beat Titan extreme, you can beat T5. You want t5 nerfed even more, are you serious??? I went into t5 and only a few times entering the instance, I completed it. With i110 gear, it was a cakewalk. T5 is less than 1 million Gil to buy the completion. I think you should just save to buy the completion, instead of trying to nerf it for everyone else. You also wanna know what's hilarious?? Everyone complaining about T5 has probably never actually tried to get better at it. You(the player) most like queues a few time, dies at con flags, than rushes to the forums and hits the complain button.

sometimes as much as I love the internet, I sometimes hate how people can be so easy to wine and complain about something without actually trying to get better at it, than go to the forums and complain only because they are anonymous.

[Shinsaki]

I'd like to see that 4 man T5. That means, you could carry 4 people, and make a ton of gil selling runs, right?

Why isn't this happening then?

Here you go then.

[wicked-one]

Was bored, done T6 with PUGs yesterday, 5 kills, 2 Wipes...no Voice, and still no Troubles...

You are doing it with the wrong people, frustrating yea, but T5 is no showstopper anymore...

- you can´t fix a social problem by technical means -

>>I'd like to see that 4 man T5
With the actual Gear, while still an achievment, but surely a doable achievment.....