Coil 5 changes needed

[Tiggy]

there will be if the T6-9 savage have enough success/value. It has been announced like that at least, and quite frankly I was waiting for it in 2.4

That's great but there isn't currently a savage t5 and until there is the point stands.

[Kuwagami]

That's great but there isn't currently a savage t5 and until there is the point stands.

yeah nvm, I misread the quoted message

[LalaRu]

That's great but there isn't currently a savage t5 and until there is the point stands.

yeah nvm, I misread the quoted message

Guess my original message was not so much clear: I am ok with T5 nerfed, if we also get at same time the T5 in its original glory.

[Cynfael]

T5 is fine and teaches necessary skills for end-game progression.

I think what people get hung up on is that they get dollar-store weapons and armor as their completion reward despite the fact that the fight is initially rather complex and challenging for the new raider. "I Completed Baby's First Raid Boss in FFXIV, and All I Got Was This Shitty T-Shirt."

So, rather than focusing on the now-obsolete rewards, I like to think of the fight as a progression primer. It also tends to be less of a time sink to take only one, max two friends at a time into a clear party with experienced players so that they can more easily follow everyone else's lead when in doubt and are less likely to instigate party wipes when they make mistakes.

[MasamuneBranford]

Just out of curiosity - is there a more up-to-date guide for T5 now? Back when 2.0 / 2.1 was around I cleared T1 - T4 playing casually. Never had the time for the huge undertaking that was T5. As of today - I've never even attempted. With the raise in I-levels and the implementation to echo - Id imagine there might now be slight variation to strategy. Is the mr. Happy video still the one to watch?

[Cynfael]

Is the mr. Happy video still the one to watch?

MrHappy really likes to talk, so I used the MTQ video guide as my primer while I was learning the fight. I tend to do it a little differently at the snake adds, but the general idea is clear. Higher ilvl just means you can push phases faster, and it makes strats like solo tank and solo heal easier.

One thing I cannot stress enough is the importance of everyone hugging the death wall while anticipating the next Divebomb indicator. Failing to do this as well as moving too late are the most common causes of wipes past conflagration phase IMO. Everything after is pretty straightforward once players learn to unfailingly watch for Twisters and move/position properly for the remainder of the fight.

[Sapphic]

Anyone else notice one thing? Majority of those complaining about content difficulty, say they can clear it, it's always the other players. All those parties that they "have problems finding other people that are capable of clearing", have one thing in common I'll let you figure out what that is XD

[SnaggleFox]

What do you guys expect to happen after you clear T5 with a DF group? You can't DF T6-13. You'll need a static for that. So stop whining and form a static for turn 5 already. It's stupid easy to beat. Or just stop caring about Coil because if you can't put in the effort to beat T5 then there's no point in continuing to try.

[Empressia]

What do you guys expect to happen after you clear T5 with a DF group? You can't DF T6-13. You'll need a static for that. So stop whining and form a static for turn 5 already. It's stupid easy to beat. Or just stop caring about Coil because if you can't put in the effort to beat T5 then there's no point in continuing to try.

well that reminds of some peeps in my fc similar to OP in which they DO form a static after each being carried through t5 and t6, decided they're genius and skipped t7 and t8, jumping straight into t9 only for them to wonder why they can't pass t9 1st phase!

[Prototype909]

What's the point of clearing t5 if you just get stuck on the next step? If you can't handle t5 you will never handle Second Coil. Players now have 20% more base stats + approximately 20 more item levels worth of stats attached to your gear at this point (If you have unweathered soldiery pieces all slots) than people who were originally clearing this content. No excuses.

Adding more people is actually to your detriment during twisters too, that arena isn't that big.