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    Lemuria Glitterhands
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xisin View Post
    doing this would render scathe obsolete. The instance in which you have to interrupt a cast to move in the game is fairly low with proper planning at least. I bring this up because of so many people arguing that blm has a useless ability, anyway uses :
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    No I do not want one of the things that is skill based to be taken away from my job.
    Skill based = standing in one place and moving occasionally? You have a really bizarre sense of the word, but I digress. What I was really baffled about was how it's rendering Scathe obsolete?

    So... an ability which does NOTHING to cast times renders a spell, which is ALWAYS instant-cast obsolete because...? Err... how? I mean, does Swiftcast render Scathe obsolete? No one's stopping you from using Swiftcast as a Scathe 'replacement... I mean, aside from the recast but surely you can't mean that because both of these abilities have a recast. That would just be a stupid reason, and you don't strike me as stupid.

    Surecast is basically junk at the moment. It does practically nothing to guarantee an attack fires off, and, yes, I've even been interrupted while using it and NOT moving. It can still be stunned, paralyzed, slept and so forth, making even its PvP usage a bit of a stretch. It's easily my least used move of ALL time, because if I need to cast without interruption it's usually better to try and sneak out a spell in between attacks than to waste the time using this ability.

    I support any change which takes an otherwise entirely worthless skill and makes it useable.
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    Xisin Fendada
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    Skill based = standing in one place and moving occasionally? You have a really bizarre sense of the word, but I digress. What I was really baffled about was how it's rendering Scathe obsolete?

    So... an ability which does NOTHING to cast times renders a spell, which is ALWAYS instant-cast obsolete because...? Err... how? I mean, does Swiftcast render Scathe obsolete? No one's stopping you from using Swiftcast as a Scathe 'replacement... I mean, aside from the recast but surely you can't mean that because both of these abilities have a recast. That would just be a stupid reason, and you don't strike me as stupid.
    If it wouldn't ease up on the difficulty of the class then why else would you want you this change? if it means that much to you in pvp sure, but in pve no it is not needed. mechanics that silence, paralyze, stun etc happen to be moves that you should never be hit by in pve so if you are getting hit by these type of debuffs then you derped pretty hard to begin with.

    and also your point of stupidity, allow me to enlighten you of the basic blm rotation of pairing swiftcast with flare, as it stands it is the best way to use 2 out of every 3 swiftcasts, the 3rd may be used if the movement is needed, OR if you have a ballad up then it may be paired with flare again... Not sure why anyone is pairing the ability with thunder or whatever but it isn't smart to do it.

    So do tell me then, whats the use of scathe with this change? as it stands I generally use it if I'm feeling lucky/frisky and use it as the filler between thunder 2/1 and fire 3 (use blizzard 1 here normally) just to see that low % rate of a huge number (crit + proc = like 1.2k damage haha) or I use it if the odd situation comes up if I have to move for an extended period of time. If anything scathe is the ability that needs a tweak.

    If you want to do surecast simply make it so it does not consume upon cast, but not let you cast while moving. Even though surecast should be used due to a planned unavoidable damage spike coming your way but this would alleviate its difficulty in use.
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