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    Haymaker+ Jarring Strike window time

    Hello Readers! The title pretty much explains the trouble with 2 moves that "Only" can be used after a evasion. I make a macro for J. Strike 1 second delay then the action Haymaker. It is possible for the macro to work but is near impossible to execute the macro on time. Only way to use both moves is a Lag Free area (Both server connection and computer performance based) and not attack to anticipate a evasion very quickly hit the macro upon the attack (Not even knowing if you are going to evade)
    both Haymaker 1/2 and Jarring strike 1/2 are same window.

    Please feel free to critique the idea of expanding the window of opportunity

    Zamanae Lankasit 46 Pugilist
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    The window of opportunity definitely needs to go up, it's obnoxiously small right now and with a bad connection you can lose tons of chances to use them
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    The window is large enough for 2 attacks, so as long as your not button mashing, you should have time to execute 2
    If you're a little slow on getting to them on your bar, then you might only get 1 off, but it's still good

    Macros are always going to be slower than a player, due to delays in running the macro, server lag and tick timing
    (wait 1 can be shorter or longer depending on where the server is between ticks)
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    I also agree. Even if the window was lengthened by one second this would make the job much more fun to play. It's so strict at the moment, what a bummer.
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    I think when they implement auto attack we will not need to punch through the opposition so heavily making us more focused on WS and Special Abilities. Which, I would hope, make using our reactive abilities much easier. I do agree the window should be increased either way because I use Feint on my Pugilist and I cannot tell you how open that window to use it is(or atleast feels haha).
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBoy View Post
    I think when they implement auto attack we will not need to punch through the opposition so heavily making us more focused on WS and Special Abilities. Which, I would hope, make using our reactive abilities much easier. I do agree the window should be increased either way because I use Feint on my Pugilist and I cannot tell you how open that window to use it is(or atleast feels haha).
    Feint's window is long enough to do a full attack animation after a miss, and still use feint.
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    They should make it so when you evade an attack you get an evade point or icon or something then be able to use haymaker or jarring at any time.
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    Well, IMO its already good enough. It all depends of the mob...some monsters, like efts, might give you time to even use simian trash after these 2.

    You might be able to use them both even at faster monsters...but this will all depending not of connection, but accuracy. Jarring strike will always give you a 1~2 seconds window from stun when it lands, which is enough to prevent mob from attacking before you use haymaker. At slower mobs you can do exactly the same, but putting haymaker first and jarring second so you can follow with simian trash.

    However, i believe that, depending of how auto-attack is implemented, the window may become more constant for both small and bigger mobs, which will help using macros like this.
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    You don't need the wait time.
    I have a macro for Jarring Strike, Haymaker, and Feint, all in a row with no waits.
    When you throw up Feathfoot, watch the icon, not for the "Evade" on screen, because the moment the icon on top vanishes, you can counter.
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