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  1. #11
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    Steady's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Steady Styrmdraga
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    Faerie
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    Warrior Lv 90
    I only mark those mages who turn into dragons, or if people are being clueless.
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  2. #12
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    Alphras's Avatar
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    Rojer Alphras
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    Phoenix
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    Warrior Lv 70
    I only mark if there are mobs that need to die asap and the dps proved to be clueless or new (second boss in Quarn HM the big add that covers or bees in Hullbreaker for example).
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  3. #13
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    Fyce Alvey
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    Cerberus
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    Summoner Lv 100
    I think I'll start to mark more often in level 50 dungeons.
    Most DPS don't have a clue of what enemy to target first and they almost never care about what the other DPS is targeting.
    It leads to situations where all 3 enemies of a pull (or more) will remain alive until they're all close to death.

    This is quite an issue because killing an enemy faster reduce the incoming damage quite drastically, sometimes allowing the healer to start toing DPS instead of constantly healing.
    Also, it's quite annoying to see the DPS starting to engage an useless enemy while another one, with a bunch of annoying AoE, will remain untouched (I just had the example infront of me yesterday in Snowcloak where the DPS would both hit two spriggans but never hit the Ice bombo, causing multiples AoE during the fight, thus more positioning, thus lower overall DPS).

    So, yeah... since most DPS completly turns off their brain when it comes to targeting, I'll probably mark more often.
    This is really sad since they should have these reflexes by now... but for whatever reason, they asume that they're "too good" to care about that and "it's fine anyway, things still die".

    To be honest, I think I saw smarter DPS, prioritizing targets in a better way, during low level dungeons than in 50 ones.
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  4. #14
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    Ampersand Kai
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    Most DPS don't have a clue of what enemy to target first and they almost never care about what the other DPS is targeting.
    It leads to situations where all 3 enemies of a pull (or more) will remain alive until they're all close to death.
    It's frustrating as a DPS with some semblance of a clue, too. If there are no marks, I'll usually start with what the first thing the tank hits (except for those aevis transformation dudes), and then try to follow the tank and/or the majority of the damage. Sometimes that works out. Sometimes the other DPS starts on something else. Sometimes the tank lobs one mob, then focuses all their actual threat on another. Some groups kill stuff like bees first, some last. I try to make some kind of sense of it and go with the flow, but the flow with some groups is downright schizophrenic.

    It's not the kind of difference that leads to a wipe. At worst, it's a temporary annoyance and a slightly slower run. Certainly nothing I'll ever complain about out loud. Marking is by no means necessary (unless someone's new and there are mobs with mechanics), but life is just a little more relaxed when it happens.
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  5. #15
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    Kitori's Avatar
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    Kitori Orihara
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 60
    I really like marking my targets whether or not there is a BLM in my party. (: It still makes it easier to keep hate on all the mobs, at least in my opinion. (:
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  6. #16
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    Kossuranta's Avatar
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    Kossu Blackthorne
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    I rarely mark unless there is "special" reason for it. Sometimes there are mob stunning/paralyzing or doing annoying AoE so I mark them, but I don't expect people to stop doing AoE because there is marked one, just be sure that if you do something to single target hit that one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    It leads to situations where all 3 enemies of a pull (or more) will remain alive until they're all close to death.
    Well basically with AoE dps that is the fastest way to do it. Healers dps is too low to make any difference againts BLM hitting 3 targets, but yeah pretty much all tanks know what you are talking about
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  7. #17
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    Alistaire's Avatar
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    Your Character
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    Sargatanas
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    Blue Mage Lv 60
    Forget just "lvl 50 dungeons", it's largely unnecessary in any dungeon. Whichever tank you are, you should be generating aoe threat at the start of every pull. After a couple flashes/overpowers you can easily get an idea what mob dps are most keen on and focus on them as well.
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    Last edited by Alistaire; 11-09-2014 at 09:20 PM.

  8. #18
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    Definitelynot Godbert
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    If you're using a mouse that easily allows you to mark targets then just mark; it doesn't hurt anyone.

    If not, then there really isn't a need to; everyone at this point should have an understanding of priority targets.
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  9. #19
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    Iam Groot
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 60
    I mark something that needs to die with a 1, if they are not attacking it. Once its dead, they should attack the target with the lowest health. So at worst 1 target marked, at best none.
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    Hoarders gonna Horde.

  10. #20
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    Asheilin's Avatar
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    Limsa
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    Ahmira Duskbloom
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 80
    If the New to Dungeon message pops, I'll mark if things start getting dicey in ANY dungeon, no matter my class. However, some things I think players should mark automatically; just for ease later.
    Ran a Thornmarch HM for the first time, had notes from vids for it, but ALL the dps were on their own targets with no priority and we ended up wiping. one of the Healers marked things second attempt and it was like a "lightbulb moment" for the whole group.

    Reason I brought that up, sometimes marking "wakes" dps to paying attention.
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