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    BonzaiFerroni's Avatar
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    Bonzai Ferroni
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    Phoenix
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    Arcanist Lv 60

    Marking in level 50 dungeons

    I was curious what other players think about the idea of marking in the higher level dungeons.

    My own opinion is that it helps, just not in the same way as with lower level dungeons. When I'm tanking lower level dungeons, especially before getting Rage of Halone, I mark because it is a way of communicating which mobs I'll make sure to have top enmity on. My goal here is to have top enmity on all of them, of course, but it is necessary to invest a little more enmity in one above the others for obvious reasons.

    In higher level dungeons, especially with a BLM in the party, the rationale must change a bit. It is important to spread enmity around to cover AoE damage, and so you really must invest more enmity in all targets (more flash/overpower). There is a little less utility to marking for that reason.

    But....
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    Player
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    Bonzai Ferroni
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    ....it isn't completely worthless. Some parties still have very potent single target players, and I still have very potent single-target enmity gathering skills. Most of the time, people attack the mob with the lowest HP, and that makes sense and can work perfectly well without marking.

    I suppose what matters most is how comfortable you (as the tank) are with marking. I tend to do it as a force of habit, and it gives me the opportunity to think more ahead of time about what I'm going to do with each encounter. If you aren't used to it, it might just be a chore that isn't worth doing. I wouldn't expect any tank to mark, or think less of them if they don't.

    One reason I bring it up is that some players seem to be annoyed at marking in 50+ dungeons. I'm not really trying to be bossy, and I realize it doesn't help as much as it did in <50 dungeons. But I still think it isn't completely useless. Thoughts?
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    Player Kerwin's Avatar
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    Kerwin Nindon
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Weaver Lv 90
    The only time I mark enemies when I tank, is when I have a melee in my group. While he can AOE just as well as any other mage is DPS is far better on a single target. But most of the time I don't need to mark because they know what target to attack first. Most of the time...
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    Character
    Blitz Ace
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 80
    How i mark

    - Have BRD / BLM ? Don't mark.
    - Have melees? Mark the mobs that need to go down(Some with annoying AoEs)

    Thats about it really. I mean, some people get all pissy when i mark certain mobs, But why shouldn't i make clear that we have to kill this mob first so that he doesn't spawn or change into additional mob?
    Just trying to make the ride as smooth as possible.
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    Recaldy's Avatar
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    Recaldy Northwind
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    I as the pld realy only Mark the DPS focuses primarily in Qarn.
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    Character
    Kaane Moka
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    When people get to lv 50, they are expected to know their class thoroughly, not advanced stuff but the very basic stuff like watching out for aggro meter as DPS or switch between target and focus using Aggro combo on the ones that melee DPS is working on. I am not against the idea of marking in lv 50 Duns, it sure does make the life of everyone easier, however though, if you desperately need to or being asked to mark the mobs in lv 50 Duns, you or the requested ones still have a very very long long way to go.

    And as for those who feel annoyed in marking in the lv 50 Duns,just ignore them. I found no reason or whatsoever to get upset by this unless of course, you are a potent, toxic player. In that case, you are totally worth of " You been ignored" ..
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    Last edited by LionKing; 11-06-2014 at 07:57 AM.

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    RadRyder's Avatar
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    Character
    Shizuru Misurugi
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    I always mark targets out of habit, unless it's a gigantic pull (e.g. speedruns). I don't expect everyone to follow the marks (good tanks must be able to hold hate no matter what the party does), but I think it's better if everyone knows the order in which the targets will be receiving an RoH-combo.
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    Llyren Wolfpaw
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    I mark for special occasions, here are a few examples.

    Kill that mob due to mechanic XYZ.
    Ignore that mob, it will disappear when Boss dies.
    Focus this Boss.

    Kick any dps giving grief, abandon if healer or tank gives grief
    Hints and tips are not always grief, but feel free to treat them as such.
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    Character
    C'mell Cordwainer
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 80
    I always mark, but I watch for DDs who can't be arsed to target the marks.

    Unfortunately, in high level dungeons, I often find myself forced to resort to cycling Fast Blade -> Riot Blade -> Flash over and over again, because the DDs can't be arsed to focus the same target. Since the patch, I also toss in a circle of scorn from time to time, as it now carries an enmity boost as well.
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    Character
    Valia Rosa
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 71
    I'll mark ohko bees if I think my friends are getting a bit snoozy in a dungeon.
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