Why don't Paladins have any unique "Cures"

[Kitfox]

A tank that self heals would have to be powerful enough to replace a healer, or buff pt damage on top of self heals to make up for the damage he isn't doing with current content design. Though this discussion has been done a number of times since the beta and could be considered a very dead horse by now.

I'm all for making PLD more interesting to play though.

[Steady]

Just give Paladin Cure II, maybe even Cure III for the sake of hate generation. Then give them the ability to mod accessories with MIND on i90 Tank accessories.

Though if I had to guess, few paladins would bother with it.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Just give Paladin Cure II, maybe even Cure III for the sake of hate generation. Then give them the ability to mod accessories with MIND on i90 Tank accessories.

Though if I had to guess, few paladins would bother with it.

Paladin's have a lousy mind stat, even if it's boosted from gear, so healing wouldn't generate much hate for them.

[Kerwin]

I like the idea of the PLD getting a self heal. But we get casting interrupts all the time for just stoneskin. MP is tight when holding large mobs with flash. Some sort of ability maybe for Heavensward? Can't wait to see the level 60 abilities for all the classes! And Dark Knight!

Paladin's have a lousy mind stat, even if it's boosted from gear, so healing wouldn't generate much hate for them.

What about a full penta melded HQ i90 with full mind HQ accessories also penta melded gear? I would have to check the calculator when I get home. But that sounds like it could work well. Maybe...

[Viridiana]

What about a full penta melded HQ i90 with full mind HQ accessories also penta melded gear? I would have to check the calculator when I get home. But that sounds like it could work well. Maybe...

Would still be less hate than flash. The T13 weapon for PLD is the same magic damage as an ilvl 37 cane.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

I like the idea of the PLD getting a self heal. But we get casting interrupts all the time for just stoneskin. MP is tight when holding large mobs with flash. Some sort of ability maybe for Heavensward? Can't wait to see the level 60 abilities for all the classes! And Dark Knight!



What about a full penta melded HQ i90 with full mind HQ accessories also penta melded gear? I would have to check the calculator when I get home. But that sounds like it could work well. Maybe...

That's like pouring all your bonus stat points into STR as a WHM and then using gear and materia to boost STR further; you're still going to hit for far less than an actual DPS that was built from the ground up for that sort of thing.

[Astralos]

Paladins actually have a fairly good base MND compared to other non-healing classes, and that can always be complimented by equipment, foodstuffs, or other bonuses. It's really the lack of traits which increase healing/spell potency by +x% that prevent Paladins from being prevalent curers. But with Riot Blade being a nearly inexhaustable source of MP as long as an enemy is around, I can see why they went this route.

[Sho86]

A tank that self heals would have to be powerful enough to replace a healer.

Thats funny, I don't recall that happening in previous games that had tank heals (unless your counting going through older content in higher level/gear?).

Paladin really does need a cure though. It's worked perfectly in other tank scenarios I've played, your either using the resource for healing yourself/member on verge of death or better enmity gain, you couldn't reliably do both the entire time as you would drain your resource way to fast. Hell, we should take out bloodbath then right? That does a hell of a lot more healing than the current cure PLD is given from CNJ, and is instant without needing to cast plus reactive to your damage, not taking up any time in your rotation. Heals can very well be put in for Paladin.

[Kitfox]

Thats funny, I don't recall that happening in previous games that had tank heals (unless your counting going through older content in higher level/gear?)

Nice job quoting me without the context. The key word there was "with current (FFXIV) content design", not other games. Tanks are assumed to participate in Raid DPS, you know, do damage. If they're healing, defending and so on, they're not doing DPS, and thus will be a liability for DPS checks. Someone has to make up the missing DPS. So either you drop one healer for another dps class to cover it, or the tank has to also buff up the party damage to make up for it.

[Cabalabob]

Personally I'd like to see enhanced convalesence also add an increases cure potency effect to the PLD, maybe double cure potency. This would make cure's from the paladin comparable to stoneskin for the duration of convalesence.