SE: Why give us Goad if we can't see other's TP?

[Sylve]

The usefulness of the skill is rather lessened because we have to be told when to use it. I really don't think it should be needed for somebody to ask for Goad in a PUG.

Give us an option to be able to see other's TP, or possibly add a UI element to their name that activates when their TP is <50% or so.

Actually, even if i could see the Tanks TP, i still would prefer HIM to decide whether or not he needs the TP boost. Same for DPS. While sure, its nice to get a Goad as a Monk if im scraping the barrel, But if im down to half as part of my normal expenditure rotation and have Invig ready to go, well you just wasted your 3min CD.

Better for people to call a need for it, than to drop the responsibility of knowing when someone else might need a TP regen boost onto the Ninja/Bard, when they are most likely attempting to focus on doing their own DPS to the best of their ability. And damn me if not addicted to Mudras right now.

[Giantbane]

Actually, even if i could see the Tanks TP, i still would prefer HIM to decide whether or not he needs the TP boost. Same for DPS. While sure, its nice to get a Goad as a Monk if im scraping the barrel, But if im down to half as part of my normal expenditure rotation and have Invig ready to go, well you just wasted your 3min CD.

Better for people to call a need for it, than to drop the responsibility of knowing when someone else might need a TP regen boost onto the Ninja/Bard, when they are most likely attempting to focus on doing their own DPS to the best of their ability. And damn me if not addicted to Mudras right now.

No reason you can't coordinate your goad use better by discussing it with your group if you're worried about wasting it. But in more casual content like t4 farming, CT/ST or regular dungeons it would be nice if we could see the TP of others so BRD/NIN can make informed decisions on their own.

[Viridiana]

Better for people to call a need for it, than to drop the responsibility of knowing when someone else might need a TP regen boost onto the Ninja/Bard, when they are most likely attempting to focus on doing their own DPS to the best of their ability. And damn me if not addicted to Mudras right now.

I'd rather have both.

For comparison, I've seen healers asking for Ballad when they clearly still have plenty of MP. Similarly, I'm sure some people would be asking for Goad when they still have plenty of TP.

[Fynlar]

The usefulness of the skill is rather lessened because we have to be told when to use it.

No, you don't. Do you think BRDs should have to be told when to use Paeon, too?

It shouldn't be difficult to identify a party member using a lot of AoE attacks, and these are the ones likely to appreciate some more TP.

WAR spamming Overpower? BRD spamming Wide Volley? DRG spamming Doom Spike? There you go, use it on them.

[LegendWait]

No, you don't. Do you think BRDs should have to be told when to use Paeon, too?

It shouldn't be difficult to identify a party member using a lot of AoE attacks, and these are the ones likely to appreciate some more TP.

WAR spamming Overpower? BRD spamming Wide Volley? DRG spamming Doom Spike? There you go, use it on them.

With the common tunnel vision syndrome, getting to see a bard to play songs on his own in DF is pure fantasy. Goad just falls into this category, just like summoners that actually use virus or eye4eye.

[WinterSolstice]

No, you don't. Do you think BRDs should have to be told when to use Paeon, too?

It shouldn't be difficult to identify a party member using a lot of AoE attacks, and these are the ones likely to appreciate some more TP.

WAR spamming Overpower? BRD spamming Wide Volley? DRG spamming Doom Spike? There you go, use it on them.

You miss the entire point. I said the skill was lessened. Very few NINs are using it because they just don't know when they should.
I'm not denying that it's quite easy to tell when somebody might need TP if you pay attention to what they do, but to say that this feature is not needed is completely asinine. This very simple feature should have been in the game long before NINs came to be.

What you're saying is comparable to "A healer should know when to heal by taking notice when people get hit". While that is certainly true, would any competent healer only make use of that, rather then also taking notice of their HP bars? Of course TP isn't nearly as important as HP, but if we have a skill which replenishes ANYTHING, we need to be able to see what we're replenishing. Again, this is basic.

[Zarzak]

No, you don't. Do you think BRDs should have to be told when to use Paeon, too?

It shouldn't be difficult to identify a party member using a lot of AoE attacks, and these are the ones likely to appreciate some more TP.

You mean like those times the bard is ALSO needing the song? Wow aren't you good.

When an INDIVIDUAL (monk or drg) need TP on turn 8... Yes they call for it. The bard doesn't have some magical TP sensing organ that tells them it is time unless they have done the event 20 times and know exactly when the melee is going to need TP for that specific encounter.

[Giantbane]

No, you don't. Do you think BRDs should have to be told when to use Paeon, too?

It shouldn't be difficult to identify a party member using a lot of AoE attacks, and these are the ones likely to appreciate some more TP.

WAR spamming Overpower? BRD spamming Wide Volley? DRG spamming Doom Spike? There you go, use it on them.

Can you see mana of party members? yes
Should you be able to see TP? yes
Why? same reason

[ReplicaX]

No, you don't. Do you think BRDs should have to be told when to use Paeon, too?

It shouldn't be difficult to identify a party member using a lot of AoE attacks, and these are the ones likely to appreciate some more TP.

WAR spamming Overpower? BRD spamming Wide Volley? DRG spamming Doom Spike? There you go, use it on them.

So you are against an overall beneficial indicator showing an actual value that should have been in the game at launch?

Your comment disturbs me, especially for new players trying to learn the game. A TP indicator is great reference to see how quickly a job or a player burns through TP.

[Shadex]

If mana is important enough that the rest of the team needs to be able to see it so is TP. It was dumb not to include its visibility at launch and it is equally so not to add it now. It is a vital aspect of any fight.