DF Lockout needs to be adjusted/looked at/reviewed

[Lazearus]

They aren't wasting anyone's time more than an individual withdrawing from the queue. In fact they're actually wasting fewer people's time as a group than an individual does. Think about it. If a group of 7 joins a queue for 8 person content, and the group of 7 withdraws, they are only wasting 1 other person's time. If an individual joins a queue for 8 person content and then withdraws, they are wasting 7 people's time. Sounds worse to me when the individual does it.

So what's the reason to punish the whole group for one person's actions again?

And that is why SE's method is good. 7 people who wasted the time of 1 person's will receive the same punishment as the single person who wasted the time of the 7 others. Do you really want SE to punish the single person who withdrew from an ST queue with a 23X30min penalty?

Anyway, in a party, each member must be proactive in ensuring everyone else is ready and prepared before entering the instance. This is precisely why every member will get the penalty because they are partly responsible.

Once again, I am okay with changing the system to punish only those responsible, but this current system is already good enough for me.

[Giantbane]

And that is why SE's method is good. 7 people who wasted the time of 1 person's will receive the same punishment as the single person who wasted the time of the 7 others. Do you really want SE to punish the single person who withdrew from an ST queue with a 23X30min penalty?

Anyway, in a party, each member must be proactive in ensuring everyone else is ready and prepared before entering the instance. This is precisely why every member will get the penalty because they are partly responsible.

How on earth could you possibly read what I wrote and think I wanted to punish the single person with 23x the penalty.

In both cases the person who withdrew is the one wasting everyone's time. He's even wasting his own groups time. 1 person clicked withdraw or was AFK, 1 person is solely responsible. This just actively discourages players from grouping with random people because they *might* give you strikes. Do you honestly think the game needs more of that?

How this system handles partial groups sucks.