Goad

[Senfei]

"You don't sit with Internal Release ready to go the entire dungeon because "There was never a situation where we would die if I didn't have extra crit. Use your skills, and use them on your own without having to be asked." Quote from your post. Based on your logic, Benediction should be used as well on a random player on a random time just because "There was never a situation where we would die if XyZ.." . Or you know "Holmgang" when you are full health, just because "There was never a situation where we would die if etc..."... And then afterward, when a actual situation raises, required you to use those skills, will you like "Oh shit, they are on CD"?

Benediction and Holmgang are "Oh sh--" buttons that save the party from wiping. Goad is a TP regeneration skill to be used on a party member as a support mechanism. If you can't see the difference in the use of Goad and the two skills you mentioned, there's not much else I can say. I think you are just arguing to argue, so whatever. The point is, Goad is a skill on your hotbar. It's not up to everyone else to tell you when and how to use it, you need to learn when and how. Paladins and Warriors shouldn't need to be told when to use Provoke, they should just know that "Oh, that stray mob is wailing on our poor healer. Provoke!". Ninjas should just know that "Oh hey this dragoon is spamming doom spike! Goad!"

You can sit here and argue that you have no obligation to use your skill, and that's fine. That's your call. You can just take goad off your hotbar completely if you want, who cares. The point is if you want to excel at being a ninja then you need to learn how to excel in the use of -all- its abilities, not just the one that make big numbers appear on the enemy.

[Kiokin]

The point is, Goad is a skill on your hotbar. It's not up to everyone else to tell you when and how to use it, you need to learn when and how. Paladins and Warriors shouldn't need to be told when to use Provoke, they should just know that "Oh, that stray mob is wailing on our poor healer. Provoke!". Ninjas should just know that "Oh hey this dragoon is spamming doom spike! Goad!"

This comparison isn't good. It's a tank's job to make sure things are attacking them. Provoke is necessary for them to do that. It's not a Ninja's job to restore people's TP, they just happen to have an ability that does that. You'd have an argument if TP was visible, as obviously a good ninja would glance and see someone is low on TP and Goad them, but as it stands now we have more to pay attention to than what skills other people are using in a mosh pit of spell effects. We have no obligation to use it of our own accord, but once it's asked for we do. So until the devs decide to make TP visible, if you want Goad, ask for it.

[Senfei]

We'll just agree to disagree then. Like I said, it only takes me half a second to make the connection between "I should AOE in this situation" and "Oh hey everyone else is AOEing too".

If this too massive a hurdle for some people, so be it.

[Kiokin]

We'll just agree to disagree then. Like I said, it only takes me half a second to make the connection between "I should AOE in this situation" and "Oh hey everyone else is AOEing too".

If this too massive a hurdle for some people, so be it.

Yeah, we could throw it on people when we start AoEing and risk wasting its benefit if the mobs don't live long enough for it to be necessary. Then you're stuck waiting 3 minutes when the time it could be useful could happen before then. It's really not that hard to just make a macro or type "goad." 6 keystrokes, you can do it.