Goad

[Delorean]

If a WAR is repeatedly using OP and not utilizing Flash and SC then no.

You can only use Flash 3 times which does less enmity than OP and should honestly only be used if you're at a weird angle and need to create breathing room to find a better one to OP spam at. You also need 5 Wrath to be able to use SC

When I OP spam I hit OP two or three times before I hit maim, pop cds and get back to it until depletion.

Sometimes I will do a SC if my current wrath an enmity permits me the breathing room to generate 3-4 wrath - 2 off a combo, 1-2 off of Vengeance/Berserk

Honestly Goad is not even an amazing ability. It is useful - a respite. Nothing more. It is not going to matter much if you drop it on someone clearly attempting to make a big pull rather than in the middle of a pull. Warriors do a lot of DMG with OP during Unchained/Berserk (and whatever else they have running)

But hey, it's cool. If you don't want to help your party, that's fine. I will probably make a macro to ask for Goad when I want it - so again, I'm not arguing someone shouldn't ask for utility when they need it.

I just don't understand the hostile attitude towards being asked to take initiative. If you feel like you're going to waste it because you can't tell when a tank is going to be doing a big pull, then by all means, leave it up to them to ask for it.

I just thought that it was a pretty simple task to accomplish. =\

[ReplicaX]

I just don't understand the hostile attitude towards being asked to take initiative.

It's not a hostile attitude, we have been asking for TP of PT members on the UI since ARR Beta & launch regardless of NIN being added. Their excuse has been "It's too much info for a new player". Which is pathetic.

My main point besides NIN being brand new is we are talking about Duty Finder for Dungeons. There are so many basic & crucial things I've had to ask for in DF content. From topping off PT members on unavoidable AoE, to missed mechanics, or ppl just not doing their job. The OP of this thread at least stated they kept asking for it.

If you aren't getting what you need with a party in DF and don't ask, you aren't going to get it. Maybe it's me, but I don't expect everything to be smooth in DF, especially with a patch just released with new content and a new job. The best way to get NINs into the habit of using Goad period, as I see many not even use it. Is to ask for it then and there, to beat it into their mindset.