Goad

[Asakura93]

I don't know why I have to say this everytime I tank a dungeon as Warrior.. (when there's a Ninja in the group)

But PLEASE use Goad on Warrior Tanks in dungeons especially when they do pull more than just one group....

[ShaolinMike]

There's no way for us to see how much TP you have, so you need to let your party know when you need it. It's on a 3minute cooldown so I'd kinda want to save it until you actually needed it.

[Lorielle]

There's no way for us to see how much TP you have, so you need to let your party know when you need it. It's on a 3minute cooldown so I'd kinda want to save it until you actually needed it.

Pretty much this. If you say Goad, I'll do it. But I can't gauge how much TP you have remaining. So..First come first serve.

[ReplicaX]

There's no way for us to see how much TP you have, so you need to let your party know when you need it. It's on a 3minute cooldown so I'd kinda want to save it until you actually needed it.

^ This. We can't mind read your TP.

This is also nothing new as Bard can't mind read your TP either. MP isn't an issue as we can see it.

[Phai]

There's no way for us to see how much TP you have, so you need to let your party know when you need it. It's on a 3minute cooldown so I'd kinda want to save it until you actually needed it.

in a regular Dungeon u dont have to see shit about tp, u just use it on the big pull,s!!! when u have Warrior tank...

why u want the war tank to hold agro, and be ur brain?

[SeraviEdalborez]

Uh, you can definitely gauge their TP remaining. Did WAR use 5+ Overpowers? Then give them a Goad.

[ReplicaX]

Uh, you can definitely gauge their TP remaining. Did WAR use 5+ Overpowers? Then give them a Goad.

So we have to watch them on top of our Ninjutsu priorities and keeping all buffs and DoTs up.

No, they can simply ask for it. Ninja is not only a new job ppl are still figuring out, overall it is extremely busy.

Bard can watch other pt members and also manage songs, because the job isn't as busy and much more simplistic. Goad has a CD and is not based on MP.

Maybe when players get everything figured out, priorities down, and muscle memory perfect we can do this. The job is only a week old.

[SeraviEdalborez]

So we have to watch them on top of our Ninjutsu priorities and keeping all buffs and DoTs up.

No, they can simply ask for it. Ninja is not only a new job ppl are still figuring out, overall it is extremely busy.

Bard can watch other pt members and also manage songs, because the job isn't as busy and much more simplistic. Goad has a CD and is not based on MP.

Maybe when players get everything figured out, priorities down, and muscle memory perfect we can do this. The job is only a week old.

"Figuring out" the job doesn't take that long nor does it take that much effort. Figuring out when a WAR might need TP is not an observation unique to Ninja. It's not that much to ask that people have a base understanding of what other jobs do.

[ReplicaX]

"Figuring out" the job doesn't take that long nor does it take that much effort. Figuring out when a WAR might need TP is not an observation unique to Ninja. It's not that much to ask that people have a base understanding of what other jobs do.

From my own experience. It isn't an issue, especially something like Goad. I have yet to see the need so far in my runs as I have been doing ST to gear for higher dungeons and passing Goad over to MNKs/DRGs, if none then Tanks. In other dungeons and bigger pulls, yes priority to tanks.

However, you are not going to come across everyone like this. Which my point being yet again: ask for it if they aren't doing it. Not everyone reads the forums or has this understanding or observation/knowledge of other jobs. DF is a testament to getting the mixed bag of players and especially with 2.4 being Dungeon focused and hunts being less appealing.

[Almalexia]

So we have to watch

Don't watch. Listen. Overpower has a very distinctive "woogie-woogie-whammo" sound that is easy to distinguish from other SFX.

But any pull with 4+ targets would benefit from Goad. You could apply it right at the start. Trust your instincts and play proactively.

Here is a handy chart:
1. Are there 4 or more targets? If Y, go to 2. If N, hold Goad.
2. Is there a WAR? If Y, Goad the WAR. If N, go to 3.
3. Is there a MNK? If Y, Goad the MNK. If N, go to 4.
4. Is there a DRG? If Y, you can't Goad KO'd targets. If N, hold Goad.