Goad

[Ehayte]

This argument is very circumstantial to massive AE pulls. If you are a WAR spamming the crap out of over-power on a 4 or 5 mob pull, you are doing it to DPS not to hold enmity.

The best way to solve this is for people to ask for it when they need it, as its not on a 30 sec CD or anything. A really good NIN will be able to do this instinctively, but there are a lot of variables. When I tank on WAR or PLD I manage my resources carefully to be efficient, trading Flashes/Riot Blades or Overpowers/Flashes. If a NIN Goaded me when I had 8 mobs and had my resources totally under control, and the MNK, DRG, or BRD runs out of steam because they can't AE anymore, its going to make the fight longer, make me take more dmg, etc.

Now if I am in a dungeon with a NIN and a BLM who is just raining flares and better geared then me, then yeah I want that TP to make my life easier. MNK and DRG AE certainly isn't "good," but if you have the right CDs up it can be very effective, but it is a HUGE TP drain. So if I'm on WAR and I can OP/Flash/OP/Flash/OP/Infur/SC and hold enmity just fine, Goad the MNK.

[Steady]

Easy macro for goad.

/micon "goad"
/ac "Goad" <tt>

Done.

[LionKing]

Easy macro for goad.

/micon "goad"
/ac "Goad" <tt>

Done.

Or the usual macro for tank:

/p <insert text TP please> <se.7> <TP> <TPP>

Where as TP is TP and TP is TP percentage.

[ExiaQuanta]

Lol for me really. Its not the tp usage thats the issue. I don't mind stopping my rotation to ask either. But when I have to spam "<se.1> goad" there is something wrong.

^I will start to use this after I ask 3 times

[FyrmurlFloerasksyn]

If a person needs goad, they should just ask. Not expect the NIN to watch their TP like a hawk lol.

[SeraviEdalborez]

In this topic: lazy ninjas making excuses for being lazy.

[FyrmurlFloerasksyn]

In this topic: lazy ninjas making excuses for being lazy.

It's not been lazy. It's honestly not that hard for a tank to ask for goad.

[LionKing]

In this topic: lazy ninjas making excuses for being lazy.

In this topic, lazy people just being lazy.

Think when you want to cross the street in real life. Do the drivers see you standing there, looks like you want to cross the street? Yes. Do they stop for you without any signalling? No most likely unless they are being nice and safe to do so. That is why the Traffic lights is there, to signal the drivers to stop for the pedestrian or car doing their runs.

Same idea, you can't expect people to watch for your TP ALL the time. We have DPSers, not TP MONITOR ANALYSING SYSTEM, BACK UP AND RESTORE-ers...

[SeraviEdalborez]

You don't have to be observant though it's certainly helpful if you're doing anything harder than a FATE. It's rote memorization. Pull X amount of mobs, X amount of TP-users. Do I use Goad? Answer should be pretty obvious.

[LionKing]

Not when one never play or lV up a Warrior knows how consuming OP will take or how many times the War can use OP until he ran dry. Much like a tank won't know that aggro that being generated on a mobs from a melee will be higher than from a caster unless he plays such class. It certainly is helpful and makes everyone happy, I don't dismiss that. However, you CAN NOT blame people or CALL people lazy for not using Goad or TP song when you need it without asking. And like I said, only a BAD tank would sorely rely on OP to keeping aggro until he ran dry and in dire need of Goad or TP song. So unless, you really want to keep making him bad till worse by providing him free food and make him think he is doing it right, you have to correct them.