Revelations from Final Coil [SPOILERS]

[treuhavik]

Here's my take on a direct translation of the Heavensward lyrics;

Dis | an | sô
Disturbed | our | slumber

Rus | at | hi
Brother | mine | wake

Sal'jas | afarr'a
Will be | vengeance ours

Ma | mor | nâ | Eorzea!
Must | perish | the | Saviors!


With that, it would seem "an" is, in fact, Our or Ours, depending on context, "Afah" - Vengeance, and "Morn" - Perish.

So, if I'm correct, which I think I am, we'd be looking at "Akh Vengeance Amphitheatre" and "Akh Perish".

It'd be nice to see "Akh" in context somewhere...

I'm no linguist btw, this is just 5 minutes of me trying to match words.


EDIT: Looking at these lyrics again, and sorry if it's a bit off topic, I can't help but be reminded of Nidhogg. The title "Of the Vengeful Lance" comes to mind and pairs well with "Slumber disturbed" if you think about it....

[treuhavik]

I could imagine "Akh" to be translated into something that represents the Dravanian/Meraciydian like Us/Habitants of XXX/Davanians/Meracydians. Simplifying Dravanian/Meracydian "Akh" into Dragons for easier understanding.

Hmm... "Akh" = Dragonkin? Or would it just be Kin to them?

the Akh Afah Amphitheatre ... a certain attack called "Akh Morn".

The Dragon/kin's Vengeance Amphitheater?

Dragon/kin's Doom/End(Perish)?


EDIT: Or do you think "Akh" could mean Heretic? Would make sense concerning Shiva...and Bahamut for that matter, considering he's a "god" to be worshiped.

The Heretic's Vengeance Amphitheater - The Vengeful Heretic's Amphitheater

Heretic's End

[Wizhard]

"Perish" sounds about right. The lovely thing hits for 20-21k split between 2 tanks.

[Cherub]

Hmm... "Akh" = Dragonkin? Or would it just be Kin to them?



The Dragon/kin's Vengeance Amphitheater?

Dragon/kin's Doom/End(Perish)?

Yes, pretty much. It seems to be a possibility but I'm sure there is something more fitting.

[Grekumah]

Hmm... "Akh" = Dragonkin? Or would it just be Kin to them?

Or do you think "Akh" could mean Heretic? Would make sense concerning Shiva...and Bahamut for that matter, considering he's a "god" to be worshiped.

The Heretic's Vengeance Amphitheater - The Vengeful Heretic's Amphitheater

Heretic's End

We checked with the Lore team about the meaning. In the language of the dragons "Akh Morn" means “circle of death.” Additionally, as you’ve noticed, “akh” also appears in the name for Shiva’s battlefield, the “Akh Afah Amphitheatre,” which means “eternal circle.”

[DoctaruRavenbe]

We checked with the Lore team about the meaning. In the language of the dragons "Akh Morn" means “circle of death.” Additionally, as you’ve noticed, “akh” also appears in the name for Shiva’s battlefield, the “Akh Afah Amphitheatre,” which means “eternal circle.”

That's making alot of sense now with the song in Dravanian from heavensward teaser.

[Anonymoose]

Thanks for the tidbit, Grekumah!

In the meantime, I started reading the words of the Heavensward song with more of a filter - thinking "what would I use?" and I think I get it.

Dys an sohm in

Assuming that "an" is a personal possessive, possibly both singular and plural (it shows up in every line featuring a "my" or "our"), you can infer that "dys" is related to real-world dis meaning removal or reversal, whereas "sohm" is related to the real-world origins of somnus for sleep and dreams. Ferne gave us "Our Slumber Disturbed" as a translation, whereas rigidly translated it might be more "Undone [is] our sleep[ing]."

Rhos an kyn

Building on previous assumptions, "rhos" becomes linked to "rouse," and "kyn" becomes liked to "kin." Ferne gave us "My Brothers Awake," more literally it might be "Roused [are] my kindred."

Sah djahs afah an

This line is the trickiest. We were just told that "afah" means "eternal," which I assume means you trace it back quite a bit. Eternal, aeternus, aevum, and then switch the v sound to an f sound, kinda like an altered ever. "Sah djas" I can't figure out at all, however. We've been told it means, "Vengeance will be ours." Anybody got any ideas? If I really stretch it, I can see djahs linking to "just" and assuming "justice eternal / justice of the ages" is a fancy way of saying vengeance. "So justice eternal [will be] ours," maybe? Needs work.

Mah morn narr

We've now been told that "morn" is indeed related to "mort" for death. Like in the above, I'm a little cloudy on how we get to "the saviors must perish." Salvation is a pretty clear path back to Latin with few branches off, so I was thinking perhaps its another word. Just looking up narr I get fool - so perhaps there was also a change in perspective in the translations? Are the dragons saying "[It] must [be] death [for these] fools?" Ehhh...

I have some work to do on Mah, Narr, Sah, and Djash... anybody got any ideas?

EDIT
In case anybody's curious, I left one out - Ahk. It's likely from arc, as in the curve a circle possesses.

[treuhavik]

We checked with the Lore team about the meaning. In the language of the dragons "Akh Morn" means “circle of death.” Additionally, as you’ve noticed, “akh” also appears in the name for Shiva’s battlefield, the “Akh Afah Amphitheatre,” which means “eternal circle.”

Awesome!! Thanks Grek!

Dys an sohm in


Rhos an kyn


Sah djahs afah an


Mah morn narr

Wow, idk where you got those lyrics, but they make so much more sense than the ones I tried to work with.

It's cool to see how close I originally was though!

[Aeonk]

We checked with the Lore team about the meaning. In the language of the dragons "Akh Morn" means “circle of death.” Additionally, as you’ve noticed, “akh” also appears in the name for Shiva’s battlefield, the “Akh Afah Amphitheatre,” which means “eternal circle.”

There's a Lore team?

That's pretty awesome lol

[treuhavik]

Moose, was "Eorzea!" part of that last line or was it a line on it's own in the lyrics you found?

If the former, I'm still thinking Eorzea = Savior / Land of the Saviors - "Land blessed by the gods"

I have some work to do on Mah, Narr, Sah, and Djash... anybody got any ideas?

The latin root "Narr-" means "tell" in English. Could it mean 'share' or 'give' in Dravanian?

I can't find anything on 'Mah' but it sounds like 'My' and given that most of these Dravanian words seem sound like twisted english it's...possible.

"My Death [I] give [to] ... [the] Saviors!" /shrug

Following that same 'twisted-english' logic, "Sah" does sound like 'So'. "Djahs", if I'm pronouncing it right, sounds like Daus or Jaus, so it could be justice, maybe even judge/judgement.