What is Square saying to Smn about spell speed?

[Brianmj]

When it comes to spell speed Smns have been told it does nothing for the job - avoid it like the plague. Our dots arent influenced by ss but they proc on server ticks. Egis do not benifit due to increased ss. It isnt important bio and miasma spells cast 0.2 seconds faster because the player should be refrehing them before they wear off. Now with patch 2.4 the upgrade options have been widened. According to reddit http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...da_viable_now/ gear acquired from the wolves den could be used in PvE. But so much of it is littered with spell speed, even gear the that isn't shared with BLM. The Shiva bracelet for casters has ss, but the book does not. The Smn ironworks book, which will be an upgrade path for many since it's easiest to acquire, has ss. Is there something we're possibly overlooking? I don't believe Square designs gear arbitrarily. The high allagan grimoire has ss - a "wasted stat" wouldn't be placed on such an important piece of gear...

[Cynfael]

They're saying that they don't fully understand how secondaries work in actual gameplay.

Or perhaps they're saying that they want to cater stat allocation to the super casual crowd that goes "Faster is always better, right?" and won't question the math.

[Ronove]

I think they are saying they want me to run out of MP.

[point09micron]

Faster Ruin barrage while waiting to recast Bio? But of course not fast enough that you can sneak an extra one in.

[Bixby]

There's stuff like this in every patch. Crit on loads of tank gear, skill/spell speed all over the place when hardly anyone actually wants it. Expecting SE to have a strategy with stat distribution is a recipe for disappointment.

The PvP gear is kind of moot. Just because it's no longer flat-out stupid to use it in PvE doesn't mean it's balanced or optimized for PvE. Speed at least makes a teensy bit more sense in PvP, where faster casting could make a difference and you're more likely to burn from full to zero than keep up sustained damage over a long fight.

[Brianmj]

Will you run out of mp spamming ruin 1 using a ss spec? I really just can't believe it boils down to Square not knowing how stat distribution works. Is there any reason why Smn is worse off in this? Blms seem to love spell speed

[Kamifubuki-Yoakesetsuri]

Well I remember Naoki saying that Skill speed and Spell speed are going to be more important in 3.0 not too long ago so maybe that has some sort of significant meaning.

[Viridiana]

Will you run out of mp spamming ruin 1 using a ss spec? I really just can't believe it boils down to Square not knowing how stat distribution works. Is there any reason why Smn is worse off in this? Blms seem to love spell speed

Last time the topic came up, I asked Bayohne what it was like to design a piece of gear that no one will ever want. I didn't get a response. >_>

[IveraIvalice]

For blms ss seems o work great but for me as a whm it barely does anything. I don't remember gym exact tests because it was back when I was working on novus but something like 100 points of spell speed made a .08 difference to my cures. So I don't understand it but it seems different depending on the job.

[OneWingedSora]

If anything, Spell Speed is actually worse for SMN as it will drain your MP faster. I guess it's fine in fights that last 4 or so minutes but in long fights, you would want as little spell speed as possible.

Don't forget that Spell Speed decreases GCD as well. Less GCD > More Ruins II > Byebye MP