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    Starbirth's Avatar
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    Nebula Starbirth
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    2.4 PLD BiS found?

    Couldn't find PLD BiS anywhere so I took the time to find it with a gear calculator and I believe I did. Please note the accuracy cap for final coil hasn't been found yet and it's a rough estimate. Please tell me what you think

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/O9CC
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    Sir Taint
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    ACC Cap is 550 (maybe a couple points less)

    VIT build would be something like this:

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/O9F9

    STR would be something like this:

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/O9FD
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    So were just throwing parry out the window?
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    A'lyhhia Tahz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starbirth View Post
    So were just throwing parry out the window?
    Some people certainly believe that. However, 650 Parry combined with a i130-35 shield is nothing to scoff at. You'll be doing something to mitigate literally 45% of all physical attacks, give or take a percent. However, that number isn't over 50; the point where Parry will start to actually truly be useful. Current trends point to it possibly getting there though. We'll see.

    Regarding the use of STR, I'll start by saying that I have no idea of the HP requirements of the Final Coil. However, I would consider it safest to avoid replacing every VIT accessory with an equivalent STR accessory. Stupid STR tanks completely replace them in high end content. Smarter STR tanks use melded accessories to have the best of both worlds. Once we have i110 accessories to craft, they'll be indisputably best in slot for any Tank looking to be physically stronger. In the meantime... I can't say for certain whether it's better to use i130 VIT accessories right now or stick with those i90 pentamelds. The best way to experiment with STR right now is to respec your bonus stats. That'll get you STR at a cost of 1 VIT per point of STR. Replacing accessories makes you gain less STR than your VIT loss, but using melded accessories gives you more than one point of STR for every point of lost VIT.
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    From what im hearing the acc cap is around 560 so this is what ill probably go for http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/O9ZH
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    T13 was cleared with 8500hp (PLD)heq

    Which is i110-112

    Turn 10 is doable in a full str build at i110.

    By the time people are i130 full str builds will be BiS.

    I haven't seen a t13 video but parry shouldn't be in a t10-12 BiS.

    Parry right now for progression is a good idea but By the time anyone approaches Bis progression will be long gone. (Besides Savage FCoB)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
    T13 was cleared with 8500hp (PLD)heq
    Correction: T13 was cleared with 8500 HP by the best players in the world. Perfect play, perfect mitigation, and perfect strategy. The rest of us 99% will need more of a buffer than this. As for what the best buffer for a more average player is, we'll just have to see what's happening when more people get there.
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    Trivarium Ori
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    I was going to go for something like this http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OAGV

    Str/Vit not too bad, decent amount of det while still being main tank material.
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    Why less than 560 acc? There are reports of misses with 555 acc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjo View Post
    Correction: T13 was cleared with 8500 HP by the best players in the world. Perfect play, perfect mitigation, and perfect strategy. The rest of us 99% will need more of a buffer than this. As for what the best buffer for a more average player is, we'll just have to see what's happening when more people get there.
    By the time the rest of us are on t13 we will have over 8500 by default. And then dps will increase, the fight we be dissected and tanks will stack str again.

    Just like the last month of t9 was tanked in full str. It's all one big cycle.
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