Feint Skill

[Krausus]

Feint doesn't even find a place on my bar, and fated your argument only makes sense if you are missing on a regular basis, which most are not anymore.

I been sticking with Heavy Trammel, Twisting Vice, and now Leg Sweep as my normal TP skills, that added with using Pierce, heavy/full thrust when not on cooldowns and keeping InvII/CiAII up at all times and using buffs, I dont find I have time to use much of anything else anymore.

[Fated]

Feint doesn't even find a place on my bar, and fated your argument only makes sense if you are missing on a regular basis, which most are not anymore.

Uh, no. Post 1.18 accuracy is less of an issue than it has been but you are still going to miss at least once per fight the majority of the time. On fights such as the NMs and dungeon bosses, you will miss much more than that because they are long fights.

Noata explained it better than I can.

[Lauro]

Uh, no. Post 1.18 accuracy is less of an issue than it has been but you are still going to miss at least once per fight the majority of the time. On fights such as the NMs and dungeon bosses, you will miss much more than that because they are long fights.

Noata explained it better than I can.

Well if you take the Example of "OGRE" and Batar from the Instance i can say NO ONE will land "EVERY" hit on the boss you will still miss and like someone said "feint will be there" . so far i like to equip it on Ogre , somehow i even manage to land a few "BR" with "Feint"

[Alcide]

Well if you take the Example of "OGRE" and Batar from the Instance i can say NO ONE will land "EVERY" hit on the boss you will still miss and like someone said "feint will be there" . so far i like to equip it on Ogre , somehow i even manage to land a few "BR" with "Feint"

Lancer is a DD/Support, you have to consider personal DPS vs. group DPS.
In NM fights, using Comrade in Arms will result in more WS from the whole party, using Moonrise II and Twisting Vice II will result in less DMG taken from tank/melee, so less stress on mages and more nukes, so Feint is just a waste of TP.
Also, Hawk's Eye, Still Precision and Keen Flurry are your friends, you're just not supposed to miss a WS :P and honestly I don't really care if I miss an auto attack.

[Budi]

Lancer is a DD/Support, you have to consider personal DPS vs. group DPS.
In NM fights, using Comrade in Arms will result in more WS from the whole party, using Moonrise II and Twisting Vice II will result in less DMG taken from tank/melee, so less stress on mages and more nukes, so Feint is just a waste of TP.
Also, Hawk's Eye, Still Precision and Keen Flurry are your friends, you're just not supposed to miss a WS :P and honestly I don't really care if I miss an auto attack.

Was about to post the same things you said xD

[Krausus]

Lancer is a DD/Support, you have to consider personal DPS vs. group DPS.
In NM fights, using Comrade in Arms will result in more WS from the whole party, using Moonrise II and Twisting Vice II will result in less DMG taken from tank/melee, so less stress on mages and more nukes, so Feint is just a waste of TP.
Also, Hawk's Eye, Still Precision and Keen Flurry are your friends, you're just not supposed to miss a WS :P and honestly I don't really care if I miss an auto attack.

I completely agree with this play style, though I am pumping out pretty good DPS my main focus is the group support.

[Aeyis]

Lancer is a DD/Support, you have to consider personal DPS vs. group DPS.
In NM fights, using Comrade in Arms will result in more WS from the whole party, using Moonrise II and Twisting Vice II will result in less DMG taken from tank/melee, so less stress on mages and more nukes, so Feint is just a waste of TP.
Also, Hawk's Eye, Still Precision and Keen Flurry are your friends, you're just not supposed to miss a WS :P and honestly I don't really care if I miss an auto attack.

If you have all those cooldowns available each time you use a weapon skill, your wasting your TP~ (and even then its not a 100% chance to hit)

Also, why does a high rank lancer mention comrade in arms when it comes to weapon skills and tp usage?
Its tp usage is low and it has a rather decent duration..
its not like its a skill that actually matters in terms of TP generation/drain.

The personal damage versus group damage is amusing.
People that support ''group damage'' always seem to forget that personal damage is a part of that same group damage. xd

[Krausus]

If you have all those cooldowns available each time you use a weapon skill, your wasting your TP~ (and even then its not a 100% chance to hit)

Also, why does a high rank lancer mention comrade in arms when it comes to weapon skills and tp usage?
Its tp usage is low and it has a rather decent duration..
its not like its a skill that actually matters in terms of TP generation/drain.

The personal damage versus group damage is amusing.
People that support ''group damage'' always seem to forget that personal damage is a part of that same group damage. xd

CiA increases TP generation it is relevant. If you don't provide adequate group support then you are a burden to your group and should be replaced by an archer.

[Krausus]

Uh, no. Post 1.18 accuracy is less of an issue than it has been but you are still going to miss at least once per fight the majority of the time. On fights such as the NMs and dungeon bosses, you will miss much more than that because they are long fights.

Noata explained it better than I can.

well yeah there is always a chance but I cant afford feint there are other skills that take priority and my skill points are all used up by them.

what I dont like is the fact that things like heavy/full thrust do less damage then an auto attack pierce seems to do higher damage though.