Lock out is to heavy handed

[Riviere]

This is why we can't have nice things.

The lock out wouldn't exist if we didn't have people fishing for in-progress or just trolling the queues because they have insta queue. Back when ST was just introduced, I spent about 6 minutes of constant withdrawing from the same player. We couldn't even click commence and my chat log was pretty much filled with the player has withdrawn message. I opened a ticket to see if a GM could do something about it and he said they were working on a system that would punish people that did this, but honestly I didn't think they would implement it soon enough.

Don't blame SE, blame the players that can't get their shit together.

[Fornix]

The lock out wouldn't exist if we didn't have people fishing for in-progress or just trolling the queues because they have insta queue. Back when ST was just introduced, I spent about 6 minutes of constant withdrawing from the same player. We couldn't even click commence and my chat log was pretty much filled with the player has withdrawn message. I opened a ticket to see if a GM could do something about it and he said they were working on a system that would punish people that did this, but honestly I didn't think they would implement it soon enough.

SE Could have solved it by throwing in a 3x withdrawn in 30 minutes = 24 hours penalty rather than 3 times withdrawn in 24 hours = 30 minutes penalty. They chose not to. And as such, they screwed over a large number of players.

And making it count party wide is even more screwed up. During the weekend I was queued up with a PF group to help a person out. They had a few dps already, 1 tank and 1 healer. Couldn't get a last healer interested. Let's PUG it instead. Ready check, all ready. Duty finder put up to find the last healer. Soon after it popped. Disconnect symbol appears next to one of the DPS' names. 45 seconds pass. Oh joy. One or more party members failed to commence. The DPS logs back in. Retry. Tank and healer both were on their 3rd strike. As not all could wait an extra 30 minutes anymore, after having already wasted a lot of time getting the party together in the first place, it got disbanded.

But I'm sure that this is well within the spirit of SE offering an enjoyable gameplay experience. Kudoz to them for implementing such a great system. I sincerely hope they'll continue implementing more of these amazing features.

Nothing is more annoying than people who ask to be kicked in the dungeon, and upon denial log-off in the hopes to be kicked. I'd suggest to implement an automatic kick and 3 hour queue penalty upon disconnecting in a dungeon. That'll work out miracles as well.

[Riviere]

SE Could have solved it by throwing in a 3x withdrawn in 30 minutes = 24 hours penalty rather than 3 times withdrawn in 24 hours = 30 minutes penalty. They chose not to. And as such, they screwed over a large number of players.

They could have done that and we'd be getting exactly the same kind of threads, but with people complaining about being locked out for 24 hours instead of 30 minutes.

If that your experience it seems to run contradictory to virtually everyone else's I know of, including myself as a healer. I have experienced less withdrawn from duty pops and ST has been much quicker and easier to get in than ever before. Other day I did three in a row, no troll pops and in a time period I would of lucky to get two ST's in with all the troll pops that occurred.

Same here. ST queue is better than ever before and I'm very thankful they did this. I haven't received a strike yet.

[IfritReborn]

Since i have yet to get a penalty, and i use the DF daily...... I do not see what these "major Flaws" are..... Yea... not bothered.

Clearly you can't read either

[RoninDarkchild]

Clearly you can't read either

What's that saying? Oh yea..... "you're emergency is not my emergency"... Unbothered. When something literally does not even effect most people to call it a "major flaw" is a ridiculous stretch. Most people do not care if it is a minor inconvenience (at BEST) to people who FREQUENTLY withdraw when a que pops.....

[LunarEmerald]

Stop making excuses.

[Kyousha]

Stop making excuses.

This, this, THIS!! This SO much!

The biggest excuse I am seeing on these forums is, "I had to take a poop," while the DF pops. If you need to use the bathroom, cancel the queue and re-queue when you're finished! There are easy ways to ensure you don't receive a penalty for the Duty Finder, but people want to get in ASAP, make assumptions that the DF won't pop while they're AFK for 2 mins, and are simply impatient. Also, 30 minutes isn't a long time, and it's hardly worth posting in the forums to whine about. No one cares about others' woes, really. =\ WORKING AS INTENDED, STFU. lol.

[Lucke]

Was there ever a time when if you were in battle (like fighting in a FATE) and the queue window pops, you would get an error that said something like "You cannot be in combat, leave combat and accept again"? I was fighting in a FATE yesterday when a ST queue popped and I hit accept and went into ST while I was fighting a boss. So this "It takes me longer than 45 seconds to escape combat in Sahagin/Kobold territory" doesn't work, unless the system doesn't allow you to accept a duty when running from overworld mobs. I do know that if fighting a FATE when the window pops up, you can accept it while fighting.

[Taliph]

Was there ever a time when if you were in battle (like fighting in a FATE) and the queue window pops, you would get an error that said something like "You cannot be in combat, leave combat and accept again"? I was fighting in a FATE yesterday when a ST queue popped and I hit accept and went into ST while I was fighting a boss. So this "It takes me longer than 45 seconds to escape combat in Sahagin/Kobold territory" doesn't work, unless the system doesn't allow you to accept a duty when running from overworld mobs. I do know that if fighting a FATE when the window pops up, you can accept it while fighting.

They are grasping at straws trying to get their fishing back, but it wont happen.

[LaylaTsarra]

They are grasping at straws trying to get their fishing back, but it wont happen.

If they can identify those who used the system to fish and really abuse the system they should get more than a 30 minute lockout. That type of behavior is anti community and very selfish. Sadly because of losers who would abuse the system in that way others have to deal with remedies to try and fix it.