Lock out is to heavy handed

[MeiUshu]

I drop queue every time I need to step away for more than 40 seconds, whether that be to answer natures call, make dinner, or just step out for a quick smoke. Making 3-23 other people have to wait for your timer to expire, just to be thrown back into queue imho is more disrespectful of their time, than the slight inconvenience of having to personally re-queue.

and I am supposed to believe you ? to be fair though, you will remove youself, as do I if I have to leave as in programmed e.g. lunch or get out of the house, but otherwise nobody will do so, not even you, because, lets face it who will want to wait 40-50mn and remove themselves to requeue 2mn later to wait another 40-50mn, nobody in their right frame of mind.

Penalty is dumb...and doesnt solved a dam anything other then aggravate people.

Besides, I didnt complain of my lock out, rules are rules, we all know them and the community in its majority wanted this, so now people need to leave it it,

I barely gave an an example of how you can get locked out by not pressing ready 3x in a day (day is play time I had in this case was a Saturday evening and I had around 5h)

Mei

[Gralna]

and I am supposed to believe you ? to be fair though, you will remove youself, as do I if I have to leave as in programmed e.g. lunch or get out of the house, but otherwise nobody will do so, not even you, because, lets face it who will want to wait 40-50mn and remove themselves to requeue 2mn later to wait another 40-50mn, nobody in their right frame of mind.

Penalty is dumb...and doesnt solved a dam anything other then aggravate people.

Besides, I didnt complain of my lock out, rules are rules, we all know them and the community in its majority wanted this, so now people need to leave it it,

I barely gave an an example of how you can get locked out by not pressing ready 3x in a day (day is play time I had in this case was a Saturday evening and I had around 5h)

Mei

Believe what you will, won't change the truth. You're either one of the duty fishers this penalty was implemented to punish, trying vainly to grasp at any excuse you can to make yourself sound the victim, or you have extremely poor time management skills. Even for a 2 hour queue I can still find any number of things to fill in the time, that I'll be able to drop at a second once queue pops. Already explained in another thread the numerous menial tasks you can do while queued, as have many others. If you look at the history of these threads you'll see more likes for people praising this system, than people admonishing it. System is in place, and the majority of the public approves of it. Don't like it? There's a cancel subscription button on the mog station page.

[MeiUshu]

Two wrong doesnt a right make neither the fact that you want to believe that is THE system that it makes it so, this system is flawed, totally flawed and adds a pressure for nothing, in the end, we will get people that wont queue anymore in progress and with that you will have parties that are left down in the mid of it to have no choice but to start over with long waits...this is one of the repercussions, but of course people are like donkey with blinders all they see is what is what is in front of their nose but cant see anything else, I can excuse those, they have no choice but people arent donkeys right ?

Mei

[LineageRazor]

Even for a 2 hour queue I can still find any number of things to fill in the time, that I'll be able to drop at a second once queue pops.

Let's not forget, too, that you have two freebies. Until that third strike is in front of you, you're free to do stuff that you CAN'T drop at a second once a queue pops.

Face it, situations where you can't make it to the queue in time aren't going to crop up very often during natural play. Unless you're a tank (in which case your queue time is nil anyway), you can usually flee FATEs. If you're crafting, even something complicated, that queue needs to pop near the start of your synth for you not to have time to finish. Bathroom break? They happen, but they're unlikely to happen three times in a row unless you're ill or something. Long cutscenes? Yeah, them's the breaks, but you only have to deal with them once each.

For those two free strikes, your playstyle doesn't have to change at all from what it was before, and you STILL likely won't expend those strikes. If you DO expend them, then it is now time to choose your activities more carefully. If you're in duty finder on your third strike, go to the bathroom first. Don't start any quests with long cutscenes. Be cautious about venturing into areas with lots of aggro that you might not be able to escape in time. Keep your crafting simple. Gathering is a good pasttime. And so on. It is not unreasonable to ask players to exercise a bit of common sense when they're on the verge of earning a penalty.

And if you take every precaution and STILL somehow manage to earn that third strike? You're out of Duty Finder for a half hour. 30 MINUTES. Whoop-de-frikkin'-do!

tl;dr, players who play normally will rarely have a problem with the three-strikes rule. People who formerly abused the system will have MAJOR problems with the three-strikes rule - especially if they expend their free strikes to further attempt to abuse the system, leaving them perpetually on the edge of a penalty. And that is all as it should be.

[Amelia_Pond_Behemoth]

Is that a typical day for you? Sucks but there will be days where we eat the penalty without deserving it.

[GalkaBikini]

I think the better question here is, why on earth are you people queuing for stuff alone? I built my FC based on the foundation that we play the game together. I don't even have any linkshells that I pool people from, and I typically don't have any problems filling up 4 or 8 man groups no matter what content it is. And my FC is not huge or anything. I just don't get it.

[Ren_Taka]

I think the better question here is, why on earth are you people queuing for stuff alone? I built my FC based on the foundation that we play the game together. I don't even have any linkshells that I pool people from, and I typically don't have any problems filling up 4 or 8 man groups no matter what content it is. And my FC is not huge or anything. I just don't get it.

Once a day roulette bonuses. Pretty much a free level when leveling up or more soldiery/poetics.

[ExiaQuanta]

Pple just mad they cant in progress fish anymore.

If you are doing something and don't want to miss? Just leave the que window open. I usually stop what im doin when I see that it says 1/1 0/1 and 2/2

[Souljacker]

It really isn't the solution to the problem. The proper solution is just filtering people into random dungeons randomly, without letting them see the number of bosses defeated, and without letting them select whether they will deign to enter an in-progess run or not. You know, the way that every other dungeon finder in every other mmo works.

Either that or a penalty for the amount of withdraws within a certain time period, such as 3 minutes. 3 withdrawals over a period of an hour really doesn't address the in-progress fishing that I assume this was designed to solve. DPS withdrawing wasn't really the issue. Tanks fishing was. I know, because I was one of them.

[Domira]

Only the players who make posts asking for DF lock out to be changed are the ones who constantly withdrew from queue.