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    Dragon Kick's Assistance to Healers in FCoB

    Hi all,

    Would like to gather some information regarding FCoB from two perspectives, a Monk-less Static and a Static with a Monk on how healers deal with certain mechanics:

    Allow me to start by saying I have no monk in my static, and this is how I deal with certain mechanics in FCoB.

    T10: Final Phase Wild Charge: It is pretty important for me to Stoneskin the Charge victim, otherwise there's a chance of him dying to the subsequent tick from the ground AoE (Yes there's Super Virus on the boss).

    T11: 1st Nerve Cloud. With Succor + Sacred Soil + Storm's Path + Super Virus, not 100% survival Rate, some may die some may live.
    Resolved by requesting the Scholar to use multiple Succors to protect my StoneSkin against the constant AoE wind damage.

    T12: StoneSkin + InnerBeast mitigation against Revelation (Scholar is DPSing), the damage is around 8k~9k, curious with a monk what is the damage of Revelation.

    I would love to hear some feedback from healers that have a Monk in their party, and to judge just how useful is Dragon Kick is for the party.

    Thanks in advance for all feedback!!
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    Last edited by DreamWeaver; 11-20-2014 at 01:24 PM. Reason: over 1000

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    I am not sure if Revelation is magical damage. Now, you can call me out on this if you have factual info but I have blocked a portion of Revelation on multiple occasions. I don't usually tank and tanking makes me sort of sleepy, but anyway, I think it is physical if it is blockable - which it is. As we know, you can't block/parry magical damage. So that being said, despite the looks of it, I would say Revelation is physical and thus not helped with Dragon Kick.
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    I am unclear as well, but if someone else can indeed clarify that Revelation is Physical, I will remove that part from this topic.

    Thanks for bringing this up!!
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    Well, I can confirm that I have blocked it, I wasn't that sleepy .. Knowing how stuff works (ie. you will never get a block in Ultima HM/Ramuh EX, which are fully magical) and putting together the dots should be sufficient. My erm, hand-written data I found that I had forgotten existed previously confirms that there were Revelation blocks in the previous T12 entry.
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    T10 just using sacred soil on the path to the charged guy and adlo on tank soaking, we don't get anyone diing except if b4b fail or people missing on the path.
    T11 virus + succor and sacred soil on nerve clouds. No party stoneskin. Failed my virus this week but we still survived (except for our bard RIP)

    Where you might feel it is on t13 with all those magic raid dmg and all the rest (trying not to spoil)

    We run with 2 monks so as soon as its possible we get a DK debuff on bosses
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    T10: Final charge does seem to take a lot out of the target and can leave it for dead due to the ground damage despite DK. I try to Stoneskin or Regen the target if I can fit the timing window. Otherwise our scholar tries to save a lustrate for that occasion.

    T11: Succor + Sacred + Storm's + S. Virus + DK along with SS on the party brings non-tanks down to roughly 10-15% HP (400-800) from full. So far, only members with weakness have died.

    For that very first Nerve Cloud, we've taken it to the face without DK when still learning the fight and suffered some losses. Although some of those times we've missed a Sacred or Virus as well so the data isn't 100% clear.
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    Thanks Nikraaa and Eisenhower for your feedback

    @Tranquil,
    I asked around my FC, and somebody mentioned that Revelation cannot be dodged by Ninja's Perfect Dodge (100% evade a single Physical Attack), since I'm a WHM there's no easy way to verify that as of yet =\.

    Seems like the presence of a monk is pretty noticeable in FCoB =\, having to do all those extra nonsense just to survive when a simple dragon kick to the face can solve em easily.
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    Scholar Main here.

    Have done t10 with and without monk. No noticable difference. Nothing my healing partner and I do changed.

    T11 - have not done with monk. Always virus and succor 100% survival. Rarely use sacred soil unless someone has acquired debuff.

    T12 - again no monk. Adlo, Virus and Eye.
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    I think you can just get the SCH to put up an adlo before heading back to DPS before revelation. Storm path, adlo, SS and inner beast should be more than enough.
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    I have completed turns 10-12 without a monk, it's not a problem to not have dragon kick, though you will need to take slightly more preventative measures. This was most notable for my group when comparing turn 10 on the first week compared to subsequent weeks, because the first week we did it our monk didn't have 50 ninja yet. That first week I didn't need to bother with Sacred Soil or Succor for the charges, afterwards I did. Otherwise we didn't have to change much.

    Also if your SCH isn't putting up Adlo for Revelation they're not doing their job properly. The fight leaves plenty of other time to DPS, and if you're smart about it all you lose is one or two ruin casts. It's just a matter of knowing the timing of when Revelation comes. In the first phase it's roughly two GCDs after a Bennu spawns. In the second phase it's after every other Redfire. And in the final phase it's shortly after Fountain of Fire is cast.
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    Last edited by DududeDude; 11-24-2014 at 10:33 PM.