Increase DF speeds by setting weekly lockouts per role

[Alukah]

A great example of unintended consequences.

Example listed in the post you only quoted the last line.

" The question is if people are willing to give up the freedom of gear alt classes without actually setting a foot in any content with them (and with a terrible 450 lockout that means you will only gear 2-3 classes max) or people having to earn their gear on different jobs by actually playing them, speeding up the queues AND gear time of different roles."

Congrats you just lost a tank. I frequently cue up as war to farm tomes for my dps jobs. Now I have to cue on mnk or nin to gear those jobs.

This whole idea makes no sense. If you separate the tomes into tank heal dps and must cue on that job then ALL the dps people still cue as dps. Why would a dps guy level a tank to get tank tomes? They want dps tomes. Why would a dps cue as healer when they want dps tomes? All this does is stop people from using their at tanks/heals to farm dps tomes and they now come dps.

You are assuming people who play DPS don't play tanks or healers, with the current system you are extremely limited on how many classes you can play/gear up, which is ironic when the armory system is one of the main attractions of this game.

Besides, people don't play tanks and healers because they DON'T want to play as one, not because they "don't have gear for it". Right now you have ST with ilv100/110 rewards and SCoB is free to farm for 110/115 weapon. The "tank/healer isn't equiped" is a weak argument to begin with. And yeah, like @Izsha said, that is one consequence of different tome types.

The topic is poetic gear, not ST gear.

[Xandim]

The topic is poetic gear, not ST gear.

Actually the topic is queue times to DF/Roulette. And like I said, u have enough ways to gear up all classes and choose one "main" or 2 (poetics + FCoB). If I wanna gear up my MNK as 2nd main, why shouldn't I be able to farm tomes on my healer/tank? The proposed system can hurt more than it helps, because then people would have to queue as a DPS to farm for them, which means longer lines, not shorter ones.

[Exstal]

You are assuming people who play DPS don't play tanks or healers, with the current system you are extremely limited on how many classes you can play/gear up, which is ironic when the armory system is one of the main attractions of this game.
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You're assuming people who play DPS main don't use tanks or healers to get faster queues for roulette. (I know I queue up as SCH or WAR to avoid waiting 13m for a queue)

"Oh, you want faster queue to cap DPS tomestones? Nope, you're only getting healer or tank tomestones now, buddy. Join up as DPS if that's what you want."

Definitely reasonable.

[Alukah]

You're assuming people who play DPS main don't use tanks or healers to get faster queues for roulette. (I know I queue up as SCH or WAR to avoid waiting 13m for a queue)

"Oh, you want faster queue to cap DPS tomestones? Nope, you're only getting healer or tank tomestones now, buddy. Join up as DPS if that's what you want."

Definitely reasonable.

Please point exactly where I'm assuming that, in post #19 I acknowledged the lack of freedom to gear different classes by playing just one class as a downside, and not a minor downside, a major downside.

[Exstal]

Please point exactly where I'm assuming that, in post #19 I acknowledged the lack of freedom to gear different classes by playing just one class as a downside, and not a minor downside, a major downside.

You imply it with the post I quoted.

Under OP's suggestion, the reverse is equally as true. The inability to gear up other classes without having to play that class/role is a downside. In simplest terms, if I go on Warrior to beat queues, I can't use those tomes I get to gear up my Ninja. That, to me and likely many others, is a waste of time. Faster queues? Quite the opposite since people who want to gear up their DPS mains and have no interest in gearing up alts, let alone hitting cap, will simply not do so. So the tanks and healers pool drops.

[Alukah]

You imply it with the post I quoted.

I imply nothing, I meant exactly what I wrote, all I said is that with the current system gearing several classes take months, I don't know where you got "people who play DPS main don't use tanks or healers to get faster queues for roulette" from that.

Under OP's suggestion, the reverse is equally as true. The inability to gear up other classes without having to play that class/role is a downside. In simplest terms, if I go on Warrior to beat queues, I can't use those tomes I get to gear up my Ninja. That, to me and likely many others, is a waste of time. Faster queues? Quite the opposite since people who want to gear up their DPS mains and have no interest in gearing up alts, let alone hitting cap, will simply not do so. So the tanks and healers pool drops.

That's exactly what I said in post 19, the lack of freedom is a major downside, I'm not blindly supporting OP's idea, I can see the downsides.

Dang, reading comprehension is strong here.