You can't force people to play other roles.

You can't force people to play other roles.

While this seam like a good ideas, the reality is that it won't work. Why? When a Tank Role or Healer role is already cap, can you imagine the que time for DPS role? It is already bad, and you making Duty Finder even longer. There will be no Tank and Healer and only DPS que for Dungeon, add this with Ninja and you have some serious problem, lol.
And another problem is that, people will gear up too fast before new contents is released.

If you want to make queues faster, get healer and tank friends.
I queue as a tank almost every time (unless I have other friends going as well) so I get my speedy queue.
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Well first ill upgrade my whm with poetics and after whm its my blm/smn and after that its monk. And before im starting gearing up my tank there will be a new patch and that gear just got obsolete
If it worked this way i could get whm/caster /tank and maybe monk too to ilvl cap before new gear.
Hence the "i need another level 50 character to be able to gear up more classes" which i feel is weird in a game that lets you play all the classes on one character
Do you run coil?Well first ill upgrade my whm with poetics and after whm its my blm/smn and after that its monk. And before im starting gearing up my tank there will be a new patch and that gear just got obsolete
If it worked this way i could get whm/caster /tank and maybe monk too to ilvl cap before new gear.
Hence the "i need another level 50 character to be able to gear up more classes" which i feel is weird in a game that lets you play all the classes on one character
You seemed to have missed Felis' point. the ilvl stuff from soldiery which technicaly you can farm enough for every piece for every job in a single day because there is no cap. Will make you over geared for all content but final coil ,but high enough if skilled enough you can clear.
You can now farm second coil to your hearts content for that gear.
But you want every job you have to have the second best gear per content cycle? Which would serve you what purpose beside having more pixel treasures then other people?
again this whole thread is just about wanting more stuff then other people pretending to be about helping que times.
I find it funny that the best guilds clear coil in the minimum ilvl gear while others still can't beat twintania with ilvl110 and the echo buff. and then there are those that cry they need the best gear for DF for each job.
Last edited by Einheri; 11-04-2014 at 10:44 PM.


Not everyone plays the game to get better gear, I happen to like how the new gear sets looks and I want them for vanity. I could care less if im ilvl 10 or 110.
I play this game to collect all the cute gear and thats why i think it sucks that I need to wait more than 6 months to get all of them for my classes. And next patch maybe thers something new that looks even cooler and then that previous set is totally uneccesary to me
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Well first ill upgrade my whm with poetics and after whm its my blm/smn and after that its monk. And before im starting gearing up my tank there will be a new patch and that gear just got obsolete
If it worked this way i could get whm/caster /tank and maybe monk too to ilvl cap before new gear.
Hence the "i need another level 50 character to be able to gear up more classes" which i feel is weird in a game that lets you play all the classes on one character
Sorry, I must have misunderstood you.Not everyone plays the game to get better gear, I happen to like how the new gear sets looks and I want them for vanity. I could care less if im ilvl 10 or 110.
I play this game to collect all the cute gear and thats why i think it sucks that I need to wait more than 6 months to get all of them for my classes. And next patch maybe thers something new that looks even cooler and then that previous set is totally uneccesary to me
You try to gear your healer then your caster so they are up to snuff. Then hopefully maybe another class or two to ilvl cap before the new content cycle.
But you're not a person that plays for gear ilvl you're just into it for the looks.
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Last edited by Einheri; 11-05-2014 at 01:20 AM.



Only for Coil you need BiS gear. and I doubt you use all the jobs you counted for Coil. Maybe a reserve job with the main job.Well first ill upgrade my whm with poetics and after whm its my blm/smn and after that its monk. And before im starting gearing up my tank there will be a new patch and that gear just got obsolete
If it worked this way i could get whm/caster /tank and maybe monk too to ilvl cap before new gear.
Hence the "i need another level 50 character to be able to gear up more classes" which i feel is weird in a game that lets you play all the classes on one character
For every other content ilevel 110 is good enough (there is now also a ilevel 110 cap onhardhigh level dungeons)
Last edited by Felis; 11-04-2014 at 10:53 PM.
Fixed it for youEverything outside coil can be easily done in ilvl 90.

The problem with DF ques for dungeons is the 4 person party, that must consist of one tank, one healer, and two dps. If you look at this slide from the Census 2014 ( http://imgur.com/a/pEzlr#8 ) that shows the role distribution among the player base, you can see that DPS are 38%, to 10% tank, and 7% healer. So DPS are nearly 4 times as prevalent as tanks, and more than 5 times more prevalent than healers. Adding more tank jobs and healer jobs, won't necessarily mean more people will play those roles, though some might be enticed to switch from DPS to those roles if they are exciting enough. The only sure fix would be a six man party for dungeons with 4 DPS, one tank, one healer or a combination of DPS and Support (should they ever be added).
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Everything outside coil can be easily done in ilvl 90.


