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  1. #51
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    You got your atma hand out, either suck it up and do the books or wait until SE gives you more food stamps.
    Either way no one wants to hear you crying that SE must provide you more welfare.
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    Erilsa Leadleaf
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    You're just going to have to get back into daily roulettes and/or dungeon spam. If you relied on hunts for your animoo tomestones this had been a nerf update. But I can't(don't want to) defend that event so nya.
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    Izsha Azel
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    Tldr: QQ hunts aren't the end all be all of tomes anymore!

    Go do your roulettes. ~330 sold a day from roulettes with no 1st clear bonus. Toss in the sold from actually completing the book and your over 350. If you get 1st clear bonus here and there you can EASILY do 1 book a day from practically roulettes alone. Guaranteed 1 book every 2 days even skipping a few roulettes. You did NOT get a book from 1.5 days roulettes at any time previous. Less hunt. More roulette. Hunts are dying get over it. They were never designed to be the tome pinatas they were in the 1st place.
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  4. #54
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    Fyce Alvey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeke_Anderson View Post
    You got your atma hand out, either suck it up and do the books or wait until SE gives you more food stamps.
    Either way no one wants to hear you crying that SE must provide you more welfare.
    No need to be like that.
    The Animus is harder/longer to get in 2.4 that it was during 2.3 (with hunts), which is completly illogical, even more if you consider the fact that it's a useless and outdated weapon at this point since 110 weapons are really easy to get.

    So, if someone is asking to bring back a bit of sense and balance into that relic step, telling him to "suck it up" and that he's "crying" isn't really smart and doesn't contribute at all to the overall subject.
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    Flo Fyloord
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    To put it in perspective

    S ranks gave 200 myths, A ranks gave 80. It'd take 8 S ranks or 19 A ranks to get enough tomes (1500) for a book.
    S ranks give 50 Solderily, A ranks give 20. It'd take 10 S ranks or 25 A ranks to get enough tomes (500) for a book.

    Dungeons and Trial roulette are mostly the same....mostly. All of this stems from *gasp* hunts being overpowered in rewards >_>
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  6. #56
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    Izsha Azel
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    To put it in perspective

    S ranks gave 200 myths, A ranks gave 80. It'd take 8 S ranks or 19 A ranks to get enough tomes (1500) for a book.
    S ranks give 50 Solderily, A ranks give 20. It'd take 10 S ranks or 25 A ranks to get enough tomes (500) for a book.

    Dungeons and Trial roulette are mostly the same....mostly. All of this stems from *gasp* hunts being overpowered in rewards >_>
    Exactly. Hunts give roughly half the relative tomes for books they used to. Roulettes however give the same tomes as always while books got thirded.

    Hunts are 50% as effective for book farm in OH NOES! But the hunt enthusiast is missing that roulettes are 300% more effective than in myth days for books. TRIPLE. 1 day of roulettes is the same as THREE days of roulettes myth times.

    Get over the hunt obsession and go get your triple powered roulettes done. It's quite apparent SE never wanted hunts to be done the way they were. But they didn't just nerfed hunts they buffed the bejesus out of other methods. So go do them.
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  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    No need to be like that.
    The Animus is harder/longer to get in 2.4 that it was during 2.3 (with hunts), which is completly illogical, even more if you consider the fact that it's a useless and outdated weapon at this point since 110 weapons are really easy to get.

    So, if someone is asking to bring back a bit of sense and balance into that relic step, telling him to "suck it up" and that he's "crying" isn't really smart and doesn't contribute at all to the overall subject.
    The problem is not getting any better, being nice about it doesn't work.
    The excuse of rng being the only hurdle for the welfare cases was a lie and everyone knew it.
    I and many many others are sick of it because we know the welfare crowd will not be satisfied until they get a give me item now button and nothing but a striking dummy in coil that triggers a cut scene once you hit it.
    They will say other wise but this thread shows it's just an on going lie.
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  8. #58
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    Dusty Meow
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    " Hey SE pls pls give me the relic weapon because i want it all, i want it now. QQ I am a family father with 3 jobs and a real life that keeps me busy 26 hours a day, but i pay my subcription so pls give it to me!" QQ
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  9. #59
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    Nel Synestra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izsha View Post
    Hunts are dying get over it.
    Umm.. i tought peoples stopped hunt farming when SE removed myths from B ranks o.O i mean it was totally not worth to go after A ranks purely for tomes as there was other easier and faster methods avaible, frontline for example and its still pretty damn good place to get ToS and ToP.
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  10. #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izsha View Post
    ...
    Not to mention first time bonuses were left alone. I was getting at least 100 soldierly per T1 run for ADS materials because someone was new.

    This sort of thing always happens with changes/nerfs to something that was pretty ridiculous. If ninja ends up being overpowered and wasn't just speculation, then SE tones it down, prepare for an outcry saying it was unjustified.

    Your last bit is also up to interpretation, considering they left it alone for an entire content patch...though hunts in general was a pretty bad implementation to begin with...

    Quote Originally Posted by Synestra View Post
    Umm.. i tought peoples stopped hunt farming when SE removed myths from B ranks o.O i mean it was totally not worth to go after A ranks purely for tomes as there was other easier and faster methods avaible, frontline for example and its still pretty damn good place to get ToS and ToP.
    If you were like me (and I'm guessing a lot of people were, considering how detrimental the loss of tomes was to them), I jumped on A and especially S ranks that were called on linkshell, and I deifnitely didn't ignore seeing an A and calling it out. It's too much myths to pass up or ignore. It wasn't even a time commitment at that point (like you would for dungeons or roulette).
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    Last edited by RiceisNice; 11-05-2014 at 02:14 AM.

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