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    Player Tiggy's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    It is easier to get 500 soldiery after 2.4 than it was with 1500 myth after 2.2

    The amount of soldiery reward will get an increase with 2.5, like it was with myth during 2.3
    No one here is comparing it to 2.2, and no one cares about a 2.2 comparison that's already considerably out of date.. It's being compared with 2.3 since that's the rate we had up until a week ago and the current rate is indeed worse than 2.3 was. From a week ago pre patch to today post patch it got tougher to farm these. Even if only a little bit. That's the only detail that's relevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    No one here is comparing it to 2.2, and no one cares about a 2.2 comparison that's already considerably out of date.. It's being compared with 2.3 since that's the rate we had up until a week ago and the current rate is indeed worse than 2.3 was. From a week ago pre patch to today post patch it got tougher to farm these. Even if only a little bit. That's the only detail that's relevant.
    During 2.1 the myth reward was higher than during 2.2
    During 2.3 the soldiery reward was higher than during 2.4

    Why not comparing them if there is a pattern?

    Patch wih even number (2.0, 2.2, 2.4) = low tome reward
    Patch with odd number (2.1, 2.3, and highly 2.5) = high tome reward

    Lowering the tome prices for the books further would mean to give them away for free in 2.5
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    Last edited by Felis; 11-04-2014 at 05:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    During 2.3 the myth reward was higher than during 2.2
    During 2.5 the soldiery reward will be higher than during 2.4
    Fixed~

    I think you meant to say During 2.1 the philo reward was higher than during 2.0 as the first statement

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    No one here is comparing it to 2.2, and no one cares about a 2.2 comparison that's already considerably out of date.. It's being compared with 2.3 since that's the rate we had up until a week ago and the current rate is indeed worse than 2.3 was. From a week ago pre patch to today post patch it got tougher to farm these. Even if only a little bit. That's the only detail that's relevant.
    Far from irrelevant, Tiggy, history shows that they make currency easier to get over the time, it's pointless to lower the cost of books when we will earn more soldiery in future patches.
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    Last edited by Alukah; 11-04-2014 at 05:09 AM.

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    Player Tiggy's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    During 2.1 the myth reward was higher than during 2.2
    During 2.3 the soldiery reward was higher than during 2.4

    Why not comparing them if there is a pattern?

    Patch wih even number (2.0, 2.2, 2.4) = low tome reward
    Patch with odd number (2.1, 2.3, and highly 2.5) = high tome reward

    Lowering the tome prices for the books further would mean to give them away for free in 2.5
    Pattern or not doesn't automatically make it a smart balance. Posting that history changes nothing when the argument is that the balance is bad to begin with. The history also fails to address the OPs concerns and uses that history as some sort of blind justification.

    Square has changed the way they've done things several times over the course of the patches because the existing method didn't work very well or the balance was found to be lacking. This is quite possibly one of those times. That's the point that's trying to be made here.
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    Last edited by Tiggy; 11-04-2014 at 05:21 AM.

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    seriously wtf? you might as well ask toilet paper manufacturers to wipe your bum after a poo whilst your at it seen as you seem unhappy with the smallest bit of effort...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AntMar View Post
    seriously wtf? you might as well ask toilet paper manufacturers to wipe your bum after a poo whilst your at it seen as you seem unhappy with the smallest bit of effort...
    Great 2nd post, gratz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigcat9715 View Post
    Let me put it to you like this. The day of the patch I had about 7 soldiery tomestones left after buying gear for my Sch. I maxed out on Poetic tomestones in about 2 or 3 days, and today I finally made 500 soldiery to buy a Animus book. That's a little ridiculous don't you think?
    Sounds like how Animus was before hunts. 1500myth took me about 3-4 days doing ALL the roulettes everyday. We got the atma nerf, no need to nerf animus too

    (Although i admit it was stupid to give hunts such a high myth reward and now at the next patch it got harder than previous patch to get enough. They shouldnt have given hunts mythrewards and it would still be fair)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigcat9715 View Post
    ... seeing that soldiery is more valuable than Mythology. ...
    Huh? How can it be more or less valuable than stuff that no longer exists or applies. That logic is broken. This is the new pricing scheme and it seems to be just fine. There are grindy stuff to satisfy the players that like to grind. For other there is the UAT and iLevel 115 from T9 now without weekly lockout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    Huh? How can it be more or less valuable than stuff that no longer exists or applies. That logic is broken. This is the new pricing scheme and it seems to be just fine. There are grindy stuff to satisfy the players that like to grind. For other there is the UAT and iLevel 115 from T9 now without weekly lockout.
    The poetic tokens I would try to get, but the last time I did that with soldiery and well collecting all of those tokens for just 2 i100 weapons is still hurting me I still have i90 accessories in for 4 of my slot's for both my SMN and my SCH. As for T9 this thread wouldn't even existed, if I had found a group that could get pass T5. The groups that I was in either wiped at twister then couldn't get pass DiveBomb after that or just couldn't get pass divebomb all together.
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    500 Soldiery?! Hot dayum! That's better than 1500!
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    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

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