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    Puppetmaster Job indirectly spoilered due to Rogue Storyline?

    I am a huge fan of Puppetmaster in FFXI and i would look forward to an other (but melee) pet jobclass in FFXIV: Heavensward.

    Which i already posted >here<

    And i always recognized these automaton in Ul'dah City. Now it seemed that these puppet appear as an enemy in the lv 25 rogue storyline. Where "Soldiers" with h2h weapons fight along with a "security marionette", which was able to cast pebble (stone) and vita. Mostly the same like a puppetmaster and his puppet functioned in FFXI . it was a melee job with h2h weapons just like monk (lower dps on his own) and a pet with different roles.

    May it be a spoiler for a possible 2. job choice for pugilist?

    (These pictures show the soldier captain which wore S/S as an exception)



    When yes, i hope these automatons are as customizable like in FFXI, too (screenshot below)





    would look in FFXIV good, too :





    Farewell
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    Gah I shouldn't have clicked - im only on the level 20 quest D:

    *covers eyes*

    In all seriousness - this is pretty interesting, was wondering if the automatons had fighting capabilities in XIV I guess they do.
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    mamets (automatons) are already used in Eorzea, and have been since launch. There all over Ul'dah for example as guards. No surprise you fight some. I am not discrediting you, but it may be a big stretch of imagination on your part... or it might not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Itseotle View Post
    mamets (automatons) are already used in Eorzea, and have been since launch. There all over Ul'dah for example as guards. No surprise you fight some. I am not discrediting you, but it may be a big stretch of imagination on your part... or it might not.
    i know that automatons are in the game since 1.0.

    i already posted that in this thread:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...b-in-this-game!

    But the difference is... that they appear the first time in fight and they use spell abillities.. additionally they appear along with soldiers who wear h2h weapons...
    which for me seems to be a clear hint. i may be wrong.. but it seems very obvious. i mean why do all soldiers wear h2h weapons as a weapon in this mission? coincidence? dont think so.

    and the automaton is called "marionette".. which is clearly related to puppetmaster in FF history.
    Unfortunatley i only have pictures with the soldier captain which was the only one without h2h weapons in this mission.


    By the way a puppetmaster video from FFXI:
    PUPP Final Fantasy XI
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    i think the 4 next jobs had been already hinted a lot

    1) dark knight (officially announced)
    2) Samurai (soken did hints it while las vegas)
    3) Agent (hinted while london fan fest, can be another jobs, but it probably a gunner jobs)
    4) Red Mage (the cover of the art book from the fan fest show a female hyur holding a rapier) this one is the less sure, but since yoshida have said recently that he want a melee mage...

    ps: by the way it will be a clever move if you think about it...

    1 tank (dark knight), 1 healer (probably the agent) and 2 dps (samurai and red mage) will make the df don't go weird like we had with the ninja
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    i think the 4 next jobs had been already hinted a lot

    1) dark knight (officially announced)
    2) Samurai (soken did hints it while las vegas)
    3) Agent (hinted while london fan fest, can be another jobs, but it probably a gunner jobs)
    4) Red Mage (the cover of the art book from the fan fest show a female hyur holding a rapier) this one is the less sure, but since yoshida have said recently that he want a melee mage...

    ps: by the way it will be a clever move if you think about it...

    1 tank (dark knight), 1 healer (probably the agent) and 2 dps (samurai and red mage) will make the df don't go weird like we had with the ninja
    are you sure that there are going to be "just" 4 jobs?
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    Fighting mammets have been in the game since Halatali (Hard) was introduced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwaeron View Post
    Fighting mammets have been in the game since Halatali (Hard) was introduced.
    yup and rogue was more or less introduced since leviathan storyline.. so what? And the agent (gunner job) we have seen also recently in some of the missions, too..


    The expansion is in development since 1-2 years and the new jobs dont exist since yesterday.


    Plus the mammets in Halatali didnt fought along with h2h soldiers.. Square Enix doesnt implement enemies without any background behind it.. they do it intentionally. the world and all enemies do have a lore behind it. And a "marionette" is related to puppetmaster in every FF...
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    Our magitek mount is also like a marionette. It is equipped with a marionette core.

    I don't know about the soldier. He just look like a Gladiator/Paladin to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    are you sure that there are going to be "just" 4 jobs?
    i think you underestimate the impact of only one jobs arriving into a mmorpg, we are not in FF11 where the balance wasn't always great, here Yoshida and it team try to make sure each class bring something and are balanced...
    other point, Yoshida by the past had said that he will add class/jobs in funtion of two thing, what it can bring to the game in terms of gameplay and what it can bring to the team... i don't see what can bring the puppetmaster today to the game... how will you make it different of the summoner?

    if you plan to simply make every skill of the puppetmaster make the pet move it will not be different than mage, the only difference will be the animation. soo far i doubt we will see the puppetmaster before long...very long. and don't get me wrong i am for more jobs/class in the game, but i second yoshida about the two point important.
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