Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
I wouldn't listen to the insane ramblings of a woman who turned herself into a Primal, as she basically strawmans her own argument (just like how Gaius lost whatever moral high ground he might have had the moment he allied with Lahabrea). We're not pawns of a higher power. We're adventurers, free spirited youth who go whereever fame and glory are to be found. We just happen to have the Echo (and are guided by the Mothercrystal), but it's completely up to us how we use that power.
To some extent we are now the pawns of the Ascians though. Urianger noted that Iceheart was groomed for her role in summoning Shiva by the Ascians. They used her beliefs to manipulate her into doing what they wanted.

Based on the cutscenes from the ex-primals and other places involving the Ascians every attempt we've made to thwart their plans has actually ended up being exactly what they wanted. The Ascians are grooming the Warriors of Light for a role as well. We may be acting of our own free will but we are being manipulated into making the decisions the Ascians want. Whatever their endgame is, they need us for something, and we probably won't find out what until it's too late.